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Stephan
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Today in 1835 the US debt was 0, the only time in history.
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What about in the 1990s? I have always been told (by propaganda?) that there was a surplus. At least, that is how reporters are always talking. Not that I would be surprised they spun things to sound like that was the case. I mean, "balanced budget" might not be what it sounds.
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Just because the budget is balanced, does not mean debt is paid off.

When there is a "surplus" in the budget one would think that it should go to pay down the national debt. Instead at least part of it usually goes to tax rebates, etc.

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We had a budget surplus (which means we were taking in more money than we were spending) but we were still in debt (we owed money.)

We would probably need many years of budget surpluses before we could pay back all of our debt.

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The owners of the debt do not want it paid back. They like (a) the interest and (b) the ownership of the US.
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Considering most of the owners of US debt are people in the US (by a huge amount), I don't think it is terribly unreasonable for them to be proud of owning a part of the US gov't's future revenue.

The attractiveness of US debt is a strength, not a weakness, of our economy. Whether or not we have issued too much is a separate issue.

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The USSR is among many countries that owe the US money. Unfortunately, as the USSR no longer exists, it seems unlikely that we will ever collect the debt.
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Thats probably out of date
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Russia has laid to rest the financial ghosts of the Cold War, paying back its entire Soviet-era debt to western countries.

The Kremlin claimed Russia has now become a fully-fledged member of the developed world after paying back $22bn (£12bn) of debt owed to the Paris Club - a group of 17 creditors including the US and the UK.

The Paris Club debts of, originally, about $60bn date from the fall of communism, when Russia took on all the foreign debt owed by former members of the USSR.

Almost half of it was lent by Germany. Russia had at times threatened to default on the debt, arguing that it should not be held to ransom because of the commercial shortcomings of the previous, discredited regime.

The payment is the latest sign of the country's financial independence, and illustrates how dramatically high oil and gas prices have transformed the country's economy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2945924/Reborn-Russia-clears-Soviet-debt.html
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Russia assumed the USSR's debts to the US, and they're quite small nowadays (they've paid them off, mostly).

However, you're mistaking situation. The debt we're talking about is debt the US owes people for giving the US government money, in the form of bonds.

edit: Mucus beat me to part of the response.

edit again: I believe some of it was paid off in exchange for cooperation on nuclear disarmament, but only a drop in the scheme of things.

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Stephan
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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
The owners of the debt do not want it paid back. They like (a) the interest and (b) the ownership of the US.

Well, it is one way to keep peace among the large nations.
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*applauds Andrew Jackson*
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