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Nighthawk
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Beware of the buttons...
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That looks wonderful
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Advance reviews are under embargo, which is frustrating, as reading between the lines the reviewers really liked what they saw. Plus, other than a scattering of TV spots the marketing for the film seems almost...non-existent. I don't want this to be another Iron Giant, where a great film is released and almost nobody sees it.
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Gotta love those animated movies that are far too terrifying to ever be appropriate for kids.
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Like Snow White? Or Pinocchio?

Seriously, so many Disney classics were full of nightmare fuel. [Angst]

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Marketing for the film has been pretty heavy around DC, at least. Animated spots on the metro walls between Metro Center and Gallery Place, and I saw an exterior building wall transformed into a billboard with wrap film somewhere around town, though I'm blanking on exactly where. . .maybe McPherson Square?
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We took Tova to see Despereax on Sunday, and they had a preview for Coraline. They had one when we saw Bolt as well, and it was a little 3D <shudder>.

Tova said she wants to see it. I told her I'd borrow the book from my sister, and if she likes the book, she can see the movie. I think that's fair.

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I feel like such a horrible person because I started reading "Coraline" but just couldn't get into it. After reading "Interworld," I thought that perhaps I just didn't like the style he uses for a younger audience. But then I read "The Graveyard Book" and absolutely LOVED it. So now I'm just incredibly confused.

I am still excited for the movie though.

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Can't remember who (some famous person...probably several famous persons) said it, but kids like to be scared. There are always exceptions, of course.

I was so sure Jabberwocky lived under my bed after seeing Through the Looking Glass, but anytime it came on TV, I was there.

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quote:
Can't remember who (some famous person...probably several famous persons) said it, but kids like to be scared.
I've heard the creators of Doctor Who talking like that over and over. I have never understood that. I didn't like to be scared; still don't, although my threshold for what's scary has changed over time. Most of my kids run out of the room when something scary is on. In fact, they were all scared of Snow White when they were little ... and I had forgotten, until I had kids, how scared I used to be of that movie too. Only one of my kids can even tolerate Doctor Who. So who these kids are that they're making the show for that like to be scared, I don't know.
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quote:
Originally posted by JennaDean:
In fact, they were all scared of Snow White when they were little ... and I had forgotten, until I had kids, how scared I used to be of that movie too.

[Evil] "She'll be buried alive. BURIED ALIVE! AH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!" [Evil Laugh]
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Neil Gaiman's Stardust was pretty well received as a novel and as a movie, and was a decent story. Some of his novels have been really strange--like those that take place in the semi-alternate ghetto world of underground London (Neverwhere). His American Gods was quite original in concept, along with the sequel Religion War, and fairly entertaining, having the "new gods" of technological civilization actually being in conflict with the old Greek and Nordic gods.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ron Lambert:
along with the sequel Religion War

[Confused]
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quote:
Originally posted by JennaDean:
[QB] [QUOTE]Can't remember who (some famous person...probably several famous persons) said it, but kids like to be scared.

I've heard the creators of Doctor Who talking like that over and over. I have never understood that. I didn't like to be scared; still don't, although my threshold for what's scary has changed over time.

Hmmm... as a kid, I had real trouble with nightmares, mostly after Doctor Who. I do still think, though, that such problems do serve to strengthen you as an adult still. Some difficulty is needed if we are to keep going, I'd say.

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quote:
Originally posted by ambyr:
quote:
Originally posted by Ron Lambert:
along with the sequel Religion War

[Confused]
That was my reaction as well. I know there was a sequel/spin-off titled, if I recall correctly, Anansi Boys...
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quote:
Originally posted by JennaDean:
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Can't remember who (some famous person...probably several famous persons) said it, but kids like to be scared.
I've heard the creators of Doctor Who talking like that over and over.
That's it!! I knew I'd heard it somewhere. Thank you!
Each person is different, I guess. A younger cousin of mine would get nightmares all the time from 'scary' movies, but he was ravenous for them as a kid. My aunt and uncle had to screen movies constantly, considering if each would become a nightmare-causer or not. If it was up to Rick, he'd have watched them all!

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Originally posted by ambyr:
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Originally posted by Ron Lambert:
along with the sequel Religion War

[Confused]
That was my reaction as well. I know there was a sequel/spin-off titled, if I recall correctly, Anansi Boys...
That's what I thought, too, though I read them in reverse order.
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Gaiman is intending to write another book that would be more of a direct sequel to American Gods than Anansi Boys is, but he hasn't published it yet. In Silverberg's Legends II anthology, there's a Gaiman novella called "Monarch of the Glen" that features Shadow, the main character from American Gods, in Scotland. In the introduction for the story he is quoted as saying:

[quote]I always conceived of American Gods as a backdrop to tell stories with. The next novel, the one I'm writing now, is called Anansi Boys, and is the story of Mr. Nancy and his sons, Spider and Fat Charley. Until Robert Silverberg called and asked about an American Gods novella, I had thought of Shadow as someone I would come back to a long time from now, someone I could use to tell a different story about America. But a story started twining in my head: something with Shadow in Northern Scotland, and various old stories and archaeological books I'd read started to twist and shape.

I wrote the story, and I realized as I wrote it that there were a number of other stories waiting to be told about Shadow in the United States. And I knew what the next American Gods book would be."

That book is not yet out, and if it's been titled, I kind of doubt that it's something so clumsy sounding as Religion War. Where did you come up with that, Ron?

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I had no idea this movie was based on a Neil Gaiman book. I was on the fence on whether or not I wanted to watch this and I'm definitely going to see it now.
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I wonder if Ron got it mixed up with The Religion War by Scott Adams, which is also a sequel (God's Debris), and deals with matters of faith and clashes of civilization (from the wiki entry; I haven't read it, so I can't say for sure).

On the actual subject, I became less enamoured of Coraline when I saw the first trailer. But the same was true for Stardust, and I ended up liking it alright in the end.

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Yeah, the trailer for Coraline put me off too, but Puffy said that Gaiman was personally quite pleased with the movie, so I assume that they probably just tried to make a trailer that appealed to a broad audience, and in the process made it look like they'd messed up the tone of the story.
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New Coraline web trailer in HD
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The first trailer shows the Other Mother slowly stitching together a Coraline doll, accompanied by creepy music. True, it was obviously intended as a 3-D spot and it doesn't give many hints about the true scope of the story, but is it really that bad? [Smile]
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This is the trailer that I meant; not the teaser.
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Yes, now that I see it, Anansi Boys was the name of the sequel to American Gods. I must have gotten Religion War from misreading a search lookup summary. Even though I have read Anansi Boys, I could not recall the title off the top of my head. Sorry I was a bit too hasty and rushed in my Internet lookup.
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1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8pj1-Fkdq8
2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qPL-cypf_o
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4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1bWvUOmUg
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The Graveyard Book won the Newberry [Cool]
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[Smile] !!
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The Other Mother bugs Coraline.
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quote:
After reading "Interworld," I thought that perhaps I just didn't like the style he uses for a younger audience.
I'm a total Gaiman fanboy, will buy and read anything he does... and I didn't like Interworld. It came off as being extremely unimaginative to me, so much so that I had to wonder how much Gaiman wrote and how much was from the other guy.
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quote:
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The Graveyard Book won the Newberry [Cool]

Too cool. [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Bridges:
It came off as being extremely unimaginative to me, so much so that I had to wonder how much Gaiman wrote and how much was from the other guy.

Michael Reaves. He's written some very popular episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation, Batman: The Animated Series, Gargoyles, and countless other genre shows.

Not saying he's the same caliber writer as Gaiman, but if you found InterWorld unsatisfactory, there may be another explanation than "the other guy." [Smile]

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Entirely possible. Dunno anything about him, good or bad.
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Mark Evanier enthuses about Coraline
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Anyone seen it yet? I'm hoping to tomorrow.
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I saw it last night and it was WONDERFUL!

I need to go out and buy the soundtrack now because I loved the music.

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I loved it, but the rest of my family hated it. [Frown]

*wistful sigh*

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