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lobo, learn your lesson and don't open Blayne's threads.
Be secure with the knowledge that they're all either fanboyish crap or demanding that someone explain something tragically simple to him.
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Googling might require, you know, spelling the title of the show correctly. I dunno, but it sounds rather pertinent.
Now, it might be interesting to discuss the possibilities of power, particularly unusually supernatural powers, and its effects on individuals possessing them, the lessons one could learn in how NOT to pace a television series, why it is that characters who seem terribly competent in their fields and do nearly super-human things thanks to sheer intelligence and skill, such as Sherlock Holmes, are popular, and even, perhaps, to rant about the train-wreck that comes from bad pacing, too many throw-away characters and those same characters being treated like action figures, instead of actually behaving reasonably, merely because the plot the creators thought of requires it. And how similar I think this is to the flaws in the series Heroes.
But such things would require a different thread, I think.
Perhaps one that describes an actual show, because there is none called Code Geas.
Code Geass, yes. But not Code Geas.
As for lobo: I draw the line at insulting out of hand the entire productivity of an entire nation (in this case, of animation from Japan), even if it's an effective and funny way to get Blayne all riled up.
Really, it's no worse than American television.
But then, I don't exactly have a high opinion of American television...
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You gave NONE. The fact that you expect everyone to already know what you talk of speaks to your own narcissism, and is, in fact, not their fault.
It's completely yours, because you didn't give any information.
And the context of an incorrectly spelled title is kind of worse than helpful...
And besides. You never said what about it confuses you. The clever tricks of the protagonist, which stretch the bounds of plausibility, even in a world with giant robots, even farther each episode?
The fact that there are a lot of characters and subplots and constantly shifting allegiances to keep track of, many of which aren't handled well at all?
The plans of the villains to begin with, which are indeed confusing because they are explained inadequately?
The fact that none of the questions as to the background, source of the powers, etc, etc, etc, was explained in the least?
(Does it sound like I dislike this show? Well, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. But I know that such enjoyment was in spite of very real, very serious flaws, which I in fact do not forgive, because many of them are utterly stupid. Kinda like Heroes, actually.)
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Googling might require, you know, spelling the title of the show correctly. I dunno, but it sounds rather pertinent.
Now, it might be interesting to discuss the possibilities of power, particularly unusually supernatural powers, and its effects on individuals possessing them, the lessons one could learn in how NOT to pace a television series, why it is that characters who seem terribly competent in their fields and do nearly super-human things thanks to sheer intelligence and skill, such as Sherlock Holmes, are popular, and even, perhaps, to rant about the train-wreck that comes from bad pacing, too many throw-away characters and those same characters being treated like action figures, instead of actually behaving reasonably, merely because the plot the creators thought of requires it. And how similar I think this is to the flaws in the series Heroes.
But such things would require a different thread, I think.
Perhaps one that describes an actual show, because there is none called Code Geas.
Code Geass, yes. But not Code Geas.
As for lobo: I draw the line at insulting out of hand the entire productivity of an entire nation (in this case, of animation from Japan), even if it's an effective and funny way to get Blayne all riled up.
Really, it's no worse than American television.
But then, I don't exactly have a high opinion of American television...
In Dungeons and Dragons the spell is spelt "Geas" or "Quest" I noticed right away that the effects of both the inshow ability and the ingame spell effect are nearly identical. As such I spelt it Geas because that is how its spelt elsewhere.
As for context, the idea is that the first 2 episodes do not at first glance explain whats happening very well, giving me the impression I was watching something in the MIDDLE of transpiring not the beginning, probably a difference in how it is done in the manga vs the Anime. 10 episodes in I have a better grasp of whats happening but the first episode was based on the opening paragraph in wikipedia confusing as hell.
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Blayne... this isn't Dungeons and Dragons, and it doesn't really matter how they spell, well, anything, because that's not the way the series is spelled, that's not its official spelling, and to do anything different is like spelling, for example, the movie The Color Purple as The Colour Purple, because that's how color is spelled in Britain, and, say, you consider that the correct English.
It isn't relevant because that's not how the show's name is spelled. Or do you call Neon Genesis Evangelion. instead, Neo Genesis Evangelion? (If we're going to use anime examples as opposed to American movies?)
The fact is, D&D's spelling is irrelevent to the point, which is that the show is called Code: Geass, and as such calling it Code Geas is inaccurate, and not helpful to the spellchecker. (Though it probably doesn't matter, since the spellchecker is smart enough to correct you, asking you if Code Geass is what you actually meant to spell.)
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Also. "the first episode was based on the opening paragraph in wikipedia confusing as hell" ?
What the heck does that even mean? I'm serious, I honestly cannot tell. Do you mean that the opening paragraph in wikipedia was confusing as hell?
Did you intend a comma after the word was? Do you mean the first episode was based on the wikipedia article? What the heck do you mean, because your syntax is remarkably imprecise, and in fact makes your statement unusually difficult to read.
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I'm gonna have to back Blayne up on the spelling. It's a romanized version of Japanese, so Geass is technically just as inaccurate as Geas. Gias or Giasu would be closer.
I realize that "Code Geass" is what's written on the title screen; I'm just arguing that Geas works just as well.
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Well, in real life, if you were gonna spell the word, sure.
However, while geas works as the word, the show is spelled differently, and though it's probably because someone f-ed up the spelling, that's the one they went with, and the one you'd have to look up on google.
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quote:Originally posted by 0Megabyte: Well, in real life, if you were gonna spell the word, sure.
However, while geas works as the word, the show is spelled differently, and though it's probably because someone f-ed up the spelling, that's the one they went with, and the one you'd have to look up on google.
in the end who cares? Do you want to talk about the show or not.
Episode 16-17ish, heres the rundown so far:
It seems to me they read my mind, took what I liked best about several animes and and litetature combined them together with superglue I do not kid, they took the Geopolitical Weiqi/Go/Chess/Shogi Game of OSC's Shadow Series, combined it with semi realistic Mechs, combined with the psycological thriller of deathnote, and sprinkled a tiny bit of D&D in there for good measure.
And I feel like I am watching the Hearts of Iron Stage of my game with King of Men as we have a super power called "Britannia" there, albeit it only has Spain and Africa.
Once I got past the highely confusing first episode (or 2 or 3) it gets alot better, kinda fast past but thats fine. Can't wait to look it up in TV Tropes for extra laughs.
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Blayne. The mechs are no more realistic than any other. Sure, they tried... but roller skates? I mean, very interesting design choice, and a bit more original than normal, but it is kinda silly.
I'll agree with you about the Shadow series. The ending of the series is about as realistic as the end of the Shadow series. I will give no spoilers to either, but when you think about them both, you realize that they'd probably not work out so well IRL.
But hey, OSC has the excuse that he had already written the end result beforehand, so he had to do the best he could... which was pretty good, and very entertaining, even if I doubt it could really occur.
Geass, however... well. Its' final ending made me want to tear my hair out because the solution was ten thousand times ten thousand kinds of stupid.
The D&D connection is nonexistent. Nothing in the rulesof D&D, or the flavor of it, exists, even within the main character's superpower. The word exists outside of D&D, and it seems more plausible to me that they got the word from outside sources, because just because the word exists in D&D doesn't make anything else using it sprinkled with anything from it.
I do like Lelouch's combination of the manic/depressive personality disorder that tends to follow all those savant-level fictional geniuses (see Sherlock Holmes for the best example of another one, only with even fewer people skills.) He's delightfully evil, and I do fairly enjoy his exploits, and his clever plans.
A lot of the character interactions between Lelouch and Suzaku, particularly in the first season, were interesting. Especially after Lulu knew who was really in that white Gunda... I mean Lancelot, or whatever the heck it's called.
Anyway, Char, I mean Lelouch, sorry, has some really good scenes. And the dub actor has a really good evil laugh.
The interaction between Kallen and Suzaku is also quite interesting. Seeing as they basically end up, at least it seems to me, start arguing the philosophical differences between working within the system or overthrowing it entirely, and arguing which is better whenever they start kicking the carp out of each other.
Oh. And honestly? I really, really think Lelouch would have ended up much more emotionally stable if, you know, he'd actually gotten laid at least at one point during that freaking series.
I mean, seriously. I don't care which. C.C., the witch who gave him Geass? They start developing quite the bit of chemistry. Kallen, who totally is in love with him? Lelouch totally needed to just do her. She would have been better off too, I think. Maybe even that dumb red-head from school would have been acceptable.
Besides... Lelouch really needed to fixate on someone other than his blind crippled sister, because his liking of her was a bit... too... much. Actually, that wasn't the only sister of his he loved, because he also had a thing for his half-sister Euphemia, and that was only SLIGHTLY less squicky. He said so straight out, actually. And the one chick who declared herself married to him? No. She was just... the tiniest bit too insane, and he was very classy with blowing her off.
Darn it. That darned douchebag had plenty of choices. Of course, by the end of the series he was convinced anyone he was close to would die horribly (and was probably right, as shown by example) but even so, before that point, he could have at least gotten laid and blown off some steam. (Unless, of course, that's exactly what he was doing with C.C. after... erm... a certain spoilerific point in the story. They very well might have been. In fact, I'd be surprised if they weren't, because some of the things they did together were... interestingly intimate, to say the least.)
Have I spoken too long on how the main character needed to get laid? I think I screamed it at the screen more than once, because I think I was frustrated at his totally super villainish form of asexuality.
Back to the plot. Later on, my dear Blayne, things start making less sense. A full season worth of plot crammed into a few episodes, a few episodes worth of plot drawn out far too long, etc. Pacing issues start messing everything up, things aren't explained well, and the entire show starts to get this "here's the cliff notes" feeling, because they obviously had no time to deal with everything they wanted to deal with. Having too many characters does this, because they had... how many, by the end? I don't even dare count it, because it gets into ridiculous numbers. And they just keep adding more!
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The "sprinkle" of DnD is simply my impression of some of the things that I like to do with shows:
1) The "Geas(s)" ability is similar to the Spell Geas.
2) Rolo's ability is similar to an At-Will Time Stop, almost uncannily exactly the same.
3) In every Show or Anime I watch I play the "Alignment Game" and geuss their alignment.
But yeah, why for the love of god don't anime's let people get laid? In Gundam Seed Even Whiny Angsty Kira got some tail, and not just a one night stand either.
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Hmm, it seems there IS two Anime series I think, I started with R2 which appears to be the sequel hereby explaining why it was so confusing. Now I need to find the original.
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You started with R2? Yeah, of course you have no idea what is going on. That's the second season.
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: 3) In every Show or Anime I watch I play the "Alignment Game" and geuss their alignment.
Why?
In fact, I've never been constitutionally certain what all the old D&D alignments mean. "Neutral Evil"? It boggles the mind.
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Lawful Evil: Evil, but have standards or limits, your more likely to use the law to your own advantage as the law is likely to protect you from reprisals.
Neutral Evil: Asshole alignment, they'll do whatever they can get away with and are in it for themselves. And are consistent.
Chaotic Evil: Will do anything you want, whenever you want, to whomever you want as you feel like it.
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quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: In Gundam Seed Even Whiny Angsty Kira got some tail, and not just a one night stand either.
Man, he got on my nerves.
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quote:Originally posted by Puffy Treat: So it actually has nothing to do with neutrality. Hmmm.
Theyre neutral in the sense they dont care about good or evil, they'll side with whomever will help their selfish goals the most for least amount of effort.
I kinda fall into this category nicely.
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You fall into the catagory of neutral evil?
Somehow I'm not surprised, Blayne. I'm really not.
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But, wow, you started with R2? That... explains a great deal as to why you were confused.
Didn't you ever look up the show, like on wikipedia? I mean, you mentioned looking at it, but your syntax was so unclear I literally could not understand what you said about it. I already said this, but unfortunately you ignored it, because it probably would have helped.
As for getting laid? It's partly because, uh, most anime is made for children or young teens.
And, well, there are a number who do, actually, get laid. But you have to look a little harder. (And no, I don't mean hentai.)
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Gundam Seed is aimed at the exact same audience but the protaganist at least gets laid.
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Uh, no, no it isn't. Code Geass was fairly carefully tuned in an attempt to bridge to a slightly younger and more female audience that more typical space opera shonen (such as the Gundam Seed series) has had a hard time picking up. Approaches to that include getting CLAMP to do the character designs and toning down, slightly, certain aspects.
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Woah woah woah, I finished watching the first season and it CLEARLY shows Nina Einstein masturbating to a picture of Princess Euphy, it was VERY explicit. The argument that Zero/Lelouch shouldn't have gotten laid with one of his Unwanted Harm because it was targeted at a younger audience doesn't make sense.
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Yeah, they gave up on the young part partway through. The female targeting stayed (and that scene was part of it).
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But anyways the second season makes alot more sense now, poor poor Lelouch, the Universe just keeps on liking to kick him when hes down.
Awesome ending though, its like Death note but they ended it at the half way point.
*is blown to smithereens while being distracted laughing*
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I'm from Quebec, thinner, better dressed, and not that disparate.
And I prefer Chinese.
Or are you confusing Long Live Japan as being a fixation on Japanese people? I like anime, but I don't have any particular wish to learn Japanese or be Japanese, I adopt a partial mindset when I play a Japanese nation in a Strategy game to get into a RP mood but nothing more.
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