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BelladonnaOrchid
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So I was semi-lurking around here the other day and it occurred to me that other Hatrackers must garden, too. So I'm curious, what's going on in your gardens?

This year I am starting a perennial bed in my backyard with some gladiolus, columbine, some dahlias, a butterfly bush, geraniums, coreopsis, and crocosmia. Everything is just starting to come up now (I'm in zone 7b) and I'm so excited!

Half of the bed is in peaches/purples/blues and the other half is in bright colors.

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Love your colors!

We just moved into a house that was built on farm land, so we have "blah" landscaping at the moment.

My enterprising husband just added a beautiful rock border in the front and planted a Yoshino Cherry Tree and a White Crepe Myrtle tree. The builders had planted some Maple trees, which are growing good.

We've mixed in eight white Azaleas among the boxwoods that the builders planted. I bought a beautiful Snowball Viburnum, but so far it's still sitting, waiting to be planted.

We planted two adorable Ligustrum Topiary Trees in front of the front porch, on each side of the sidewalk.

I have two antique reproduction urns on pedestals on either side of the door that I stuck some huge Asparagus Ferns in. On one end of the porch I stuck a huge Macho Fern into one half of a broken red ceramic pot. I've done a lot with that "half pot". Next to that, I have a huge yellow Lantana planted in a green ceramic pot with an aged concrete border on the top.

On the other side of the porch I have a ridiculously large, green ceramic pot, that matches the smaller one on the other side. I put an aged, rusted white trellis in it and planted a white Lady Banks rose, along with red Verbena, yellow Lantana, white Bacopa, Creeping Jenny (Goldilocks), ivy and some Lemon Thyme.

I'm so, so loving living and gardening in the south. It's opened up an entirely different way of gardening to me.

I'm trying out my yellow, red, white and green color scheme this season. I'm really missing something though. On the back porch I just pulled out Pansies and Violas and planted white and red Geraniums, yellow and red Million Bells, white Bacopa in my pots that already had ivy , a variety of Heuchera and Creeping Jenny. I've noticed that a lot of the old timers around here call Heuchera "Coral Bells", regardless of the variety. I've got a good mix of sun and shade areas on my back porch, so I'm able to pull off the Heuchera, as well as some gorgeous Begonias.

I'm missing a color. I think I'm going to add some blue Lobelia here and there. That might satisfy the color issue that I have going on.

When we plant on the side, I want to plant a ton of beautiful perennials, like you've planted.

You're beds going to be beautiful!!

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BelladonnaOrchid
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Thank you! [Smile]

I dye yarn and spinning fiber in my spare time, so when I want to plan colors for my garden my color wheel comes in really handy. Your white/yellow/green color scheme may feel like it's missing something because the colors are close to eachother in color. By adding red, you only have green as your 'cool' color since the white will pick up the yellow and red. Adding some purple on the blue scale would probably be just what you're looking for. I would suggest a plant in that color, but I don't know what zone you are in. Maybe a purple geranium?

Your cherry tree sounds neat! I wanted to plant a cherry tree this year to commemorate our daughter's birth for her dedication ceremony. I'm worried that August (when we're holding it) is too close to winter and that it won't be able to get established.

Creeping Jenny also sounds fun. [Smile]

Our landscaping was really lacking when we moved in 3 years ago. We had 28 bushes on our 1/2 acre property! We've removed a number of unsightly boxwoods and a couple of crepe myrtles. We still have a lot more to go. I've set myself to doing gardening in sections every year. Last year I got thrown off because I was pregnant, but early in my pregnancy I was able to plant my bulb garden in the front yard.

Next year I'm planning a native Oklahoma perennial garden to feed our local butterflies and birds.

Here are some pictures that I took last spring:
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Beautiful pictures!

I can't believe there's not more gardeners around here!

So, do you think purple would be better than adding a blue, like maybe a cobalt blue lobelia?

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I know! I figured there would at least be more than two of us.

Oh, and thank you! I love taking pictures of my gardens as they go along, too, so that I can look back on them and reference where I have things planted. It's really come in handy in helping me identify plants that have come up that I forgot about. Do you take pictures of your garden? I'd love to see them if you do.


Well, if you are looking on a color wheel, it has arrows that point to complementary colors, and you can turn it to see which colors go with which. If you are looking at three colors, and eliminating green as a color in your palate (since it's going to be there anyway), it says that blue would be a complementary color to yellow and red. If you include green, it says that a true purple would be a complementary color. So either way, a purple or a bright blue would look good and complement your color palate. That's why I recommended something purple on the blue scale first. Just depends on how you want to look at it. [Smile]

My Mom brought us down a couple of clematis (clematis crystal fountain and arctic queen) as well as a bunch of tomatos and a tomatillo. She lives in Wichita where there's a really neat nursery that has a bunch of unusual varieties of plants. She got us a white brandywine tomato and a japanese black trifele tomato as well as one that puts off green tomatoes shaped like pears! My dwarf butterfly bush came from there, too.

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Bella and Tammy, I am absolutely drooling over the mental pictures you've painted! And begonias!! *le sigh* What color(s)? I love those orange/yellow ones.

All I've got to work with this year is a porch that gets a good deal of afternoon sun, and just last night my fiance and I went out to Home Depot (due to convenience) and picked up some herbs (lavender, oregano, mint and basil) as well as some hearty marigolds (that have a distinct break in color between yellow and that red/orange) and some celosia. I miss my phlox from my old house. [Frown] In the past, I've grown things like cosmos and zinnias from seeds, but I just don't have the time this year.

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I"m still a fairly new gardener, but I'm having fun with it at least.

I've been mostly focusing on vegetables, which for some reason keep taking up more and more space each year. And with all the rain we've getting around here, everything's taken off nicely.

I've also got a couple of perennial beds going and I'm slowly trying to reclaim other beds from wisteria, english ivy, and other insanely invasive things that were allowed to run rampant for years. I'm not sure I can win that battle, but I'm going to try.

I'm just hoping that the rain lets up some this weekend so I can actually get out there and do some weeding and a bit of planting.

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Let's see: I've got crocuses (already over with) tulips, hyacinths, irises, day lilies, and some other stuff I don't remember the names of in my back yard. Oh, several of those miniature rose plants that you can buy at the supermarket. But they're getting pretty long in the tooth, so it's probably time to replace them.

I have three window boxes full of impatiens that I've been keeping alive through the winter for six or seven years. It's still a little early to put them out yet.

In the front I've got roses that came with the house. More irises, and a hydrangea. I just pulled all my taxus bushes out from in front of the house last fall, so right now I've got these gaping holes where the root balls were. I'm planning to buy some new bushes and maybe a japenese maple soon.

Along the side I've got an invasion of poppies that always bloom right on memorial day. I have to hold them back or they'll take over the lawn. Once they finish blooming the whole patch gets pretty dead looking for the rest of the summer, so I've been adding things in there to try to make it interesting after they're done. I've got a hydrangea there too, but also day lilies, daisies, and a few other things, but they're not up right now and I can't remember what they are. There are also two crab apple trees (blooming right now) and lilacs (coming soon).

Along the other side I've got a row of rose of sharon bush/trees. They came with the house also.

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quote:
Originally posted by Risuena:
I've also got a couple of perennial beds going and I'm slowly trying to reclaim other beds from wisteria, english ivy, and other insanely invasive things that were allowed to run rampant for years. I'm not sure I can win that battle, but I'm going to try.

I'm just hoping that the rain lets up some this weekend so I can actually get out there and do some weeding and a bit of planting.

Wisteria is an invasive species where you live? Here in Oklahoma you're doing good to get it to *not* be puny.

What kind of veggies are you growing? DH is growing carrots, garlic, onions, some potatoes and a bunch of different kinds of tomatoes.

This rain has been awful! Gary England (our infamous weatherman) said the other day that we'd had 4 inches of rain since Wednesday, and it's rained like crazy since then. It makes for great plant-shopping weather, since nobody else is out looking for plants and plant-places usually stock up for the weekend by Friday.

This weekend's plant scores? Echinacea 'big sky', a nice dark purple calla lily, some plum-colored mystery columbine (2.50 for a gallon container on clearance at Wal-Mart!) are both bound for my peach/plum garden. I also picked up peony 'bowl of beauty' from our local garden center with a shrimp plant. Oh, I also got the last digitalis purpurea (purple foxglove) that was there, all the rest were white foxgloves and this one is just budding, so it hadn't bloomed yet! Whoot!

Fun, fun, fun!

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quote:
Originally posted by Traceria:
Bella and Tammy, I am absolutely drooling over the mental pictures you've painted! And begonias!! *le sigh* What color(s)? I love those orange/yellow ones.

All I've got to work with this year is a porch that gets a good deal of afternoon sun, and just last night my fiance and I went out to Home Depot (due to convenience) and picked up some herbs (lavender, oregano, mint and basil) as well as some hearty marigolds (that have a distinct break in color between yellow and that red/orange) and some celosia. I miss my phlox from my old house. [Frown] In the past, I've grown things like cosmos and zinnias from seeds, but I just don't have the time this year.

Thank you!

I love phlox, but have just planted some for the first time this year. What color was yours? Maybe next year I'll be able to send you a division if mine gets big enough. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Glenn Arnold:
Let's see: I've got crocuses (already over with) tulips, hyacinths, irises, day lilies, and some other stuff I don't remember the names of in my back yard. Oh, several of those miniature rose plants that you can buy at the supermarket. But they're getting pretty long in the tooth, so it's probably time to replace them.

I have three window boxes full of impatiens that I've been keeping alive through the winter for six or seven years. It's still a little early to put them out yet.

In the front I've got roses that came with the house. More irises, and a hydrangea. I just pulled all my taxus bushes out from in front of the house last fall, so right now I've got these gaping holes where the root balls were. I'm planning to buy some new bushes and maybe a japenese maple soon.

Along the side I've got an invasion of poppies that always bloom right on memorial day. I have to hold them back or they'll take over the lawn. Once they finish blooming the whole patch gets pretty dead looking for the rest of the summer, so I've been adding things in there to try to make it interesting after they're done. I've got a hydrangea there too, but also day lilies, daisies, and a few other things, but they're not up right now and I can't remember what they are. There are also two crab apple trees (blooming right now) and lilacs (coming soon).

Along the other side I've got a row of rose of sharon bush/trees. They came with the house also.

Wow! Your yard sounds really beautiful! Crab apple trees are so lovely-we've been enjoying the ones that are blooming in our neighborhood right now, too.

Have you thought about a lily magnolia where your taxus bush was? They are just so gorgeous in the early spring, but they aren't in bloom now, so you might be able to pick some up for a steal.

I wish I had your problem with poppies! I planted some last year and this year I have one pitiful little California poppy that came back. To be fair, though, I think I planted them in a place that got too much water last year and they may have mildewed at the end of the season. [Frown]

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My questions are about vegetable gardening. I have a small garden growing in a corner of the back yard. I worry that there won't be enough sun back there, but so far, there are five peas growing and a whole bunch of carrots. However, none of the green beans I planted have come up yet. Does that mean it's not yet warm enough, or does it mean they just aren't going to grow? I planted the garden four or five weeks ago.
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Beans usually germinate in ~5-7 days, so they're probably not going to come up. Is it past frost in your area? They're warmth-loving plants that have to be seeded after the last frost.
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quote:
Originally posted by BelladonnaOrchid:
Wisteria is an invasive species where you live? Here in Oklahoma you're doing good to get it to *not* be puny.

What kind of veggies are you growing? DH is growing carrots, garlic, onions, some potatoes and a bunch of different kinds of tomatoes.

Yeah, I'm in Maryland and it's Japanese Wisteria. It's gorgeous, but it grows everywhere and does its best to kill any trees within reach of it's vines. I tore most of it out two years ago, but it just keeps coming back. We've also got lots of Japanese honeysuckle which is just as bad, except it stays to the more wild parts of our property, so I haven't needed to go after it. Yet.

As to the veggies, I've got: broccoli, mesclun, spinach, beets, carrots, potatoes, shallots, scallions, tomatillos, sweet and hot peppers, zucchini, cucumber, swiss chard, pak choy, snap beans, haricots verts, several types of heirloom tomatoes, and I'm sure there's something I'm missing. A bunch of the stuff is out in the garden already, but most of the rest I'm waiting until next weekend just to be clear of frost. I've also got a bunch of herbs - several varieties of basil, peppermint, greek oregano, chives, cilantro, thyme, sage, lemon verbena, flat leaf parsley, and chamomile. And I'll probably pick up some epazote and other things that strike my fancy the next time I stop by the nursery.

Oh! I forgot the asparagus, raspberries and strawberries. I won't get anything, or at least not much from the asparagus and raspberries this year since I just planted them, but next year should be nice. [Smile]

The rain did let up enough for me to go out and weed the vegetable beds last night, but I still need to find time to go after everything else.

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I'm more of an herb/veggie gardener myself, but haven't put anything into the ground yet.

I just moved recently, so I'm dealing with new sun issues. I had been renting a room in a house with plentiful sunshine in the back yard, but I now have two garden boxes. What's worse, the back yard is only 18 feet across, with a six foot fence on each side, a huge oak behind my property over the garden boxes, and sun that rises over one fence and sets over the other.

Basically I get morning sun on one side of the yard that ends at 2 pm, then afternoon sun that starts at 11 am on the other side of the yard.

In the afternoon box, I'll be planting a grape tomato, some cucumbers, three types of basil (genovese, cinnamon, and globe) and dill.

In the morning box, I'll be planting rosemary, thyme, oregano, sage, and possibly parsley or cilantro.

Behind my fence behind my yard, I'll be planting some spearmint (away from my garden boxes) in a slightly wooded area. Want to keep the mint from invading. Still trying to find a place for the catnip that won't have stray cats destroying nearby plants.

Also as an experiment this year, my father bought me two "upside down tomato pots" that I'll be hanging above the fence level to hopefully maximize sunlight. It looks gimmicky, but I'm willing to give it a shot this year.

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Huh. The package I had said to plant them around April 1st, which is when I did. Maybe I'll turn the soil where I planted them and try some different bean seeds in a few weeks.
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quote:
Originally posted by FlyingCow:

Also as an experiment this year, my father bought me two "upside down tomato pots" that I'll be hanging above the fence level to hopefully maximize sunlight. It looks gimmicky, but I'm willing to give it a shot this year.

That's interesting. We'd seen the 'topsy turvy' planters at our Home Depot and watched the commercials. I know in the commercials they show perfect upside-down tomato plants, but my suspicion is that they would curl back around the planter to try to right themselves. Can you update us on how this works for you? I'm really curious!
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quote:
Originally posted by Brinestone:
Huh. The package I had said to plant them around April 1st, which is when I did. Maybe I'll turn the soil where I planted them and try some different bean seeds in a few weeks.

What state do you live in? Planting dates vary a lot...
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quote:
Originally posted by BelladonnaOrchid:
I love phlox, but have just planted some for the first time this year. What color was yours? Maybe next year I'll be able to send you a division if mine gets big enough. [Smile]

If I'm remembering this right, it was red or purple. It's horrible that I can't remember! My mom still has some at her house, though. I'll have to look next time I'm there. I love her garden! She's got some of the coolest plants, including a bleeding heart, a moon plant, and some of my favorites, both a purple and a white clematis vine.

When I'm in a house again, it'll be so fun to truly garden! Enjoy your own ventures! I'll live vicariously for now. [Wink]

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Hurrah! After all of this rain, I have 9 blooms on one of my strawberry plants and my dwarf butterfly bush is budding! Unfortunately I can't get out into the yard to enjoy it because the grass is shin-high and the yard is a mud-hole!

More sun, please!

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Yay!! Strawberries!!! [Big Grin]
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The carrots are not doing very well at all, and the tomato beds have mushrooms growing in them from all the rain.

We've been able to harvest some radishes, though, and a single spinach leaf so far...and the onions are getting bigger, the herbs are really taking off, and the beets are beeting up nicely. [Smile]

In other news, the hummingbirds are back in full force, and the painted buntings would do better with a bird feeder up quite a bit higher than the one we have...the cats really like the height though. [Frown]

Now if the rain would hold off long enough for us to mow again...

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Boon! I never realized that you were a fellow Oklahoman! I think that's a total of three of us that I'm aware of now.

I hear you about the rain! We've got a couple of yellow leaves on our tomatoes after all the rain, and I'm hoping the don't rot from wet feet! It would be nice to be able to get out and mow-some of our neighbors have gotten tired of the high grass and have started to try to mow. They've all got track marks from their mowers through their yards!

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The "topsy turvy" tomato planters are so far working out pretty well.

In one, we have "Tumbling Tom Red" tomatoes, which appear to be a grape-sized variety. The plant is not very large, but it is already showing many green tomatoes.

In the other, we have cherry tomatoes, and they are doing exactly as you expected Bella. The plant grew in a "J" shape, and started heading for the sky on one side of the planter. Then a larger branch/vine started going for the sky around the other side of the planter. A third and fourth are also heading skyward.

I think once there are cherry tomatoes growing on the vines, the weight of these will start to bend the vines back toward earth. If not, I'll just lower the planters a couple of feet so that I can reach the tomatoes when they ripen.

Otherwise, everything else is growing pretty well. My grape tomato (in the ground) is taking off, though it will likely shade my cucumbers too much to really allow them to thrive. Basil, oregano, sage and thyme are all doing nicely... though my dill isn't doing so well, primarily because of lack of sunlight I think.

How is everyone else doing?

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I've got two crookneck squash that should be ready to pick in a couple of days. And several tomatoes that will no doubt remain infuriatingly green and tiny for quite some time--but the plants look great

I don't have much of a flower garden this year. Some pinwheel zinnias out front (that bed already had its big show with the iris this spring) and some caladium/impatiens planters. I'm hoping my Heavenly Blue morning glory will take off and put on a great show, but I've found they like to wait till late summer to really get serious about blooming.

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Update on the "topsy turvy" tomato planters.

While both plants have grown to standard tomato plant size, and are bearing fruit, I am noticing that it is difficult to keep them watered.

The planter does not have the capacity to hold a lot of soil, and it has very good drainage. Unfortunately, it is hanging in direct sun all day in a plastic bag only one foot in diameter and about two feet tall. The heat and the plant's absorbtion of the water dries out the soil very rapidly... far more so than plants in the ground.

I'm finding that on sunny days I need to water both in the morning and in the late afternoon. If I do not, I find that my leaves start to get wilty. Of course, large moisture variations are not good for tomatoes... though luckily I planted two cherry-sized varieties, and no beefeaters. Those would surely end up splitting over the long haul, while the smaller ones have been pretty good so far.

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I could have sworn I'd posted in this thread back when it first showed up in April... Oh well.

Shelly and I are obviously lacking in soil - since we live in an apartment - so we're trying to grow things in pots and window boxes. We have one window box with all kinds of herbs (Sweet Basil, Oregano, Basil, Parsley) that has absolutely taken off. It's a jungle and it smells really good. And it is right in the kitchen [Smile]

We have another with Rosemary, Mint and Dill that's growing significantly slower. I'm not really sure what the difference is, it's on the opposite side of the house though, so it's possible that the light it gets in the afternoon is just less direct and weaker. We've also got a number of small pots with various perennial seedlings in them. They're gonna need to be moved to large pots eventually I'll wager. They're all pretty shallow - Shelly threw them herself and not with plants in mind and then decided to use them for plants. I'm looking forward to moving somewhere with more soil so we can start a real garden [Smile]

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Ate our first beautiful tomato yesterday!
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Ate my first bell pepper today. It was sublime. Should get 4-6 tomatoes within the week. The spinach is gone...was very, very good while it lasted, though. The basil is HUGE but the dill is scrawny and tall. So's the cilantro. Not sure what happened to those.

Pulled out the bush beans today...they were producing well but the bugs really loved them, and the kids wouldn't eat the beans as they were all holey and blackened.

Note to self: plant a LOT more sugar snap peas next year, and keep them watered and picked. [Frown]

Planting more beets, and hoping it's not too late for the cucumbers I started. [Smile]

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