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Lisa
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Sheesh. So who has died and come back? Superman, remember? Superboy (the clone one), Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Green Arrow, Donna Troy (x10), Barry Allen, Bart Allen...

Sometimes, it really feels like the only people who are permanently dead in comics are Ben Parker and Thomas and Martha Wayne. And maybe Jor-El and Lara.

But DC just finished their Darkest Night series, and they resurrected a whole slew of characters, some of whom I have to admit I really missed, but still.

Osiris (that'd be Black Adam Jr., if you remember him)
Jade
Captain Boomerang
Hawk
Maxwell Lord (damn)
Ronnie Raymond (yay!)
Professor Zoom (the original - boo)
Hawkman and Hawkgirl (Shayera; not Kendra)
J'onn J'onzz
Aquaman (the original - yay!)

...and in one of the odder moves I've seen:
Boston Brand (formerly Deadman)

Some folks I'm sorry they didn't resurrect:

Ralph and Sue Dibney [Frown]
Sam Scudder (the original Mirror Master - I hate the new one)
Katma Tui
Arisia
Val Armorr (the original Karate Kid)

And one I'm relieved that they didn't resurrect:

Terry Long (gag me)

They didn't resurrect Batman, but that's okay; he isn't really dead.

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The 'Mass Resurrection at DC' part processed through my brain before the 'spoilers' part of your title. I had an interesting moment trying to figure out who or what in Washington, DC had been resurrected en masse. (:
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Jenos
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The dibny's they didn't resurrect largely because their story is complete - they have found peace as ghost detectives(they showed up in the outsiders maybe 15 issues back or so).

Zoom was obvious he'd come back if you're following the flash series, as they basically say "he's coming back cause of blackest night".

Irked they brought back captain boomerang, because it means his son is still dead and the old lame one is back. The guy was a letch, nothing interesting about him. At least his son had character.

Lord's back, I can't wait for him and booster gold to meet up.

I'm expectant about Deadman, his dialogue coming back is more about something went horribly wrong in his coming back, not someone who's, you know, glad to be alive.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jenos:
Lord's back, I can't wait for him and booster gold to meet up.

Omigod, I forgot about that. They didn't bring back Ted Kord. Bastards.
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To bring back kord would be to ruin the meaning his sacrifice had - essentially, it would undo the massive character development booster had in the face of his failure to his best friend's death. This is why I was irked about Barry's return, but considering I really read the flash after waid's run, it wasn't as big of a deal(I haven't read any pre-crisis flash, or really any flash from before 2000 or so)
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Lisa
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Booster's massive character development is due much more to his son's guidance (at his own bequest, which is kinda wonky).

As far as Barry goes, he and Kara were by a very wide margin my two favorite characters. After Crisis eliminated both of them, it was almost 20 years before I really got back to comics.

And about Lord, I just hope Diana does the right thing and kills him again. I mean, the danger he poses isn't any less now than it was when she broke his stinking neck the first time.

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I'd disagree about Rip's involvement in his character - the whole point about the storyline where he saves Ted is that A. Ted willingly goes to his death, knowing that his death would prevent a single others. B. Booster lets him go, and C. Ted forgives Booster, or rather lets Booster come to terms that failing to save Ted was not Booster's fault. Booster manages to come to terms about his death, finally move on past it(and you can see that the big thing in 52 is that he wasn't able to move past it), and becomes a stronger person as a result. Rip had nothing to do with it.

Rip's involvement is much more so in forcing Booster to fulfill his destiny, but the way he goes about it isn't that effective. Rip doesn't understand Booster at all - their relationship is strained largely because Rip's views of Booster are from learning from Booster, so the Booster he's dealing with now is one that he's utterly confused as to how to handle. The Rip-Booster dynamic is one rife with conflict, not guidance, and the point is that Booster strays from Rip's attempts at guidance only to learn a lesson as a result. Perhaps you can say that Rip is doing so intentionally, but given that we aren't really seeing any serious sneakiness on Rip's part, and much more of his annoyance at Booster, its far more fair to say that Rip isn't particularly driving the character growth so much as viewing it from the sidelines.

I suspect whats going on with Rip is that Booster wanted Rip to try and deal with Booster not only to teach Booster but to make Rip grow as well. You can see that Rip has a very utilitarian view of things, whereas Booster(and 99.99% of DC heroes) do not. I suspect Booster wanted Rip to understand first hand the flaws that come from following that philosophy, even if it is absolutely needed to do what they do.

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Many very good points. Thanks.
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Mmmm... Booster Gold. One of the few DC heroes I actually like - along with Blue Beetle, Firestorm and Doctor Fate.

I'm much more a Marvel guy. Of course, they've cheesed me off plenty good over the last few years.

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