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0Megabyte
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So, on a whim I got a 14 day free trial to EVE Online.

Since I'm here waiting for it to finish downloading, I wanted to ask if anyone here play it? Any tips? Any groups? This is an MMO, so if there's anyone playing, it'd be great to see if there's anyone else with a relatively new character, since I do want to see how this game goes, and your opinions on it would be great.

Thank you for your time, everyone!

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Stand by for Blayne.
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Anyway, I've been playing it for the last few hours now, and... hmm. I'm still not sold. It seems like a very large time commitment.

And hush! I'm sure there are other people here who do geeky things like this, besides just Blayne.

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My position on EvE is that it's vastly more entertaining to follow the stories than it is to actually play. The mechanisms of gameplay (spreadsheets in space!) take a backseat to the environment of hypercapitalist factional warfare in which everything is at stake and federations jockey over zone and resource control.
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Blayne Bradley
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My friends have a corp where they do alot of mining, missions and some pvp as a part of a somewhat laid back 0.0 alliance they're a apart of (also part of the Northern Coalition).

While reading the stories is highly entertaining the thing is once you find your niche EVE becomes incredibly immersive and engaging.

It's by no doubt a good game, the Extra Creditz guy at the Escapist almost constantly refers to it as an good game (making fun of it only once for its tutorial).

The only problem you'll have is getting the skills to do anything of appreciable value which is time based not input based.

But there's always a corp recruiting newbs, always, on my reccomendation mine might recruit you into 0.0.

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The thing that kept me from really getting into Eve was the controls. I just hated the way you navigated your ship. I would have prefered something along the lines of Wing Commander or another space flight simulator. I love reading the stories of betrayal, infiltration, etc. though.
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quote:
It seems like a very large time commitment.
That's what killed it for me. If I wanted a second job, I'd go get one (and get paid).

Well, that's the biggest reason. The fact that my real friends went on an EVE hiatus for a couple of months, just after I started playing, also contributed to my quick exit.

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Eve filters for a certain personality and then has that personality group sink years of their lives into fighting each other for virtual assets. Great if you want the stress of a high stakes wallstreet job in a nest of sociopaths, sperglords, and adrenaline junkies with none of the getting paid for your work part.

Really fun to watch the drama later though.

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So no different from any other Mummupurger.

On its own merits as a game, if you liked Elite or Earth and Beyond you'll like EVE, it is a timesink, there's no doubt but its a special timesink.

The only reason you NEED to play is to acquire assets, all training, skills, etc, are done in real time, so you don't really need to log in except to make money in game, progression doesn't require input which I think is a huge plus for people with limited time or weird schedules.

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Yeah, I'm just glad the free trial didn't require me to give a credit card number. Makes it really easy to quit. I tried a mission last night and lost. Badly. I wonder where I can find easier ones.

I mean, I do enjoy RPGs alot. And I play tons of video games.

But it's possible that MMO's aren't my thing. Guild Wars didn't interest me either, for example. Is it really possible that my personality can be geared towards video games, but not these massive time-sinks?

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I've come to the conclusion that MMOs are boring in general, usually because they try to keep things so simple so the average person can progress all the way to the end without ever actually gaining any skills.

I've heard that the DC universe online game has a little more reflex-based stuff that makes it more interesting. Haven't checked it out though.

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quote:
Originally posted by Raymond Arnold:
I've come to the conclusion that MMOs are boring in general, usually because they try to keep things so simple so the average person can progress all the way to the end without ever actually gaining any skills.

How do you define 'the end?' MMO's generally go for the general public availability of overworld content (i.e., there's a max level, and you can reach it, and experience the whole world in general on your own if you want to) but then the content afterwards tiers itself further and further on a line of reward for dedicated play and mastery of the game systems.

WoW is a perfect example of this, when you transition from level advancement to ilevel advancement.

(If you think MMO's are boring in general, though, DCU online will be no different)

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I play Eve and while yes, it can be a time sink, I actually enjoy it precisely because it is not too much of one for me. I'm a grad student right now so I don't have too much time to game, but with Eve I'm able to hop on when I want and have some fun, while my skills are training the whole time I read and write. Also, when I'm writing a paper I just set a ship up to mine and make some in-game money while being productive. It's ideal really.
Of course, I've gone through a mining phase, then a missioning phase when I had more time earlier in the semester, and now I'm back to a mining phase, so there is a ton of untapped gameplay elements (such as the enormous world of PVP). I'm hoping over the summer to really get into some of the more time intensive aspects, like pvp or exploration. We'll see though.

Blayne, I didn't know you were NC. Shame on you. [Razz]

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I tried EVE, I thought it was a lot of fun. If I had more disposable income I'd definitely play it.
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Well, okay. I finally found what look like the training missions. I actually got a ship that's built for fighting, as well as a dedicated mining ship! It feels a little better now, and I'm learning more about how to play. I actually have a few credits from the missions, so I can afford things now.

I know npc missions isn't the real meat of this game, but I do need to at least get some semblance of a foundation before I go out into the really dangerous areas, and try a few things with other humans.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Strangelove:
I play Eve and while yes, it can be a time sink, I actually enjoy it precisely because it is not too much of one for me. I'm a grad student right now so I don't have too much time to game, but with Eve I'm able to hop on when I want and have some fun, while my skills are training the whole time I read and write. Also, when I'm writing a paper I just set a ship up to mine and make some in-game money while being productive. It's ideal really.
Of course, I've gone through a mining phase, then a missioning phase when I had more time earlier in the semester, and now I'm back to a mining phase, so there is a ton of untapped gameplay elements (such as the enormous world of PVP). I'm hoping over the summer to really get into some of the more time intensive aspects, like pvp or exploration. We'll see though.

Blayne, I didn't know you were NC. Shame on you. [Razz]

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Megabyte, the tutorials are kinda bad but should eventually get you into the game.

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Megabyte, what's your ingame name? If you're in Caldari space, we could run some missions or do some mining together if you're interested.
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I'm not in Caldari space. I'm in... what, Gallenthe or something?
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ah, you're the enemy....

EVE is a game that is hardto start because the things you can do with limited skills are in my opinion very boring. Once you find a cashcow and can fly ships on a regular basis, and in some cases buy plex (which makes the game free) you can enjoy the more complex parts of the game.

The good thing is that if you are skilled in certain ships/roles and you are practiced with them you dont need millions of skillpoints. 5 rifters will take out an armageddon and cost a tenth in both isk and SP.

Shame about 020 blayne.... was a pretty fight though.

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I manage to completely avoid most pvp due to my schedule [Big Grin]
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not me, i live for the PVP. I dont spend one moment ratting or mining.
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