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Noemon
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Instead of creating a short lived thread every time I come across a piece of space related news that I find interesting, I thought I'd create this thread, and just post to it as I found interesting things on the subject that I wanted to share.
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Remember that Stardust mission that was going to do a really close flyby of a comet? It was successful, happily.

[Edit--here is NASA's official page for the Stardust probe.

[ January 05, 2004, 12:42 PM: Message edited by: Noemon ]

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I love NASA. And I'm super-thrilled that the Mars Spirit rover is doing so well. I can't wait for more photos!
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my planetary science friend claims that there is a webpage where you can get a live feed, of whatever the rover is seeing, but I haven't found it yet.

AJ

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Here's an interesting tidbit about a recent possible meteor passing through our atmosphere:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/05/spain.fireballs.reut/index.html

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And a recent meteor strike in Iran which was felt a kilometer (5/8ths mile) from impact.

NASA TV

Also take a look in Mars Rovers Homepage, especially at the breathless excitement in
Entry, Descent, and Landing then Impact to Egress.

[ January 05, 2004, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]

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Personally, I think that the Brits are probably responsible for the success of the latest NASA probe. Mars has been eating probes almost as fast as we can throw them at the planet.

The Brits fed one to the red hungry beast on December 25th. So when our probe got there it was still full from its last meal.

Let's hope it's hunger is still sated when the second probe lands. [Wink]

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Mmmm... Lander...

Dude, quit making me hungry!

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[Laugh] Sndrake!

That was priceless!

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Aaah, why aren't more people enthusiastic about the Mars landing? It's so awesome! They must have incredible technology up there, and it's ready to poke around Mars.

Yey!

Mmmmmars.

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I'm really excited about the Spirit (and the Opportunity)! in Physics today my teacher let us watch the documentary on making it, see, this is why I take physics, for those occaisionnal glimmers of facination that come along once every two months or so.

[Smile]

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Actually, most of the tech is anything but "cutting edge". The propulsion and landing systems stuff excepted.

The main data antennae is using UHF, sending data at roughly the rate of a 9600 baud modem. Even the probe OS is a commercial OS, I believe.

*Wonders how many people even remember what UHF is*

-Bok

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As I know nothing of technology that can travel millions of miles... are there alternatives to UHF that they ought to have used?

anyway back to...

Pretty, pretty! I love NASA. =)

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Whaddya mean, who remembers what UHF is?

It's a movie with Weird Al, right?

[Smile]

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From what I can tell, the media jumped the gun on the Beagle II.

They reported that the British were unable to pick up a radio signal from the lander using the radio telescope at Jodrell Bank. But the lander wasn't designed to transmit signals to earth, it was designed to transmit signals to the orbiter, which should relay them to earth. That won't be possible until January 7th, when the orbiter is in the correct orbit.

So give it a couple of days, OK?

(BTW, Jodrell Bank also wasn't capable of picking up the Vogon destructor ships passing overhead, but I digress...)

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Glenn Arnold
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UHF?

No, I don't believe in flying saucers.

(see who gets THAT reference)

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Old news, I know. But I said that I'd post some cool articles I've been following.

NASA incompetant?

Will NASA continue it's role?

Earth/Luna's Best Transfer Point

Isn't it obvious? And they think so too....

Thanks, and enjoy!

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quote:
Aaah, why aren't more people enthusiastic about the Mars landing? It's so awesome! They must have incredible technology up there, and it's ready to poke around Mars.
It is awesome! My wife and I made a special point of following the landing just like we did long ago when Surveyor 1 soft landed on the moon.

Fantastic.

I hope that Beagle can be contacted so that England can share in some of the success.

By the way...What mission was the first soft landing and pictures from the moon? Was Viking the first to soft land send back pictures of Mars??

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Viking was the first to send back pictures from the surface of Mars.

I don't know about The Moon though, it may have been one of the Prospectors, but I'll have to look it up!

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Noemon
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Looks like the Mars Express isn't having any luck contacting Beagle 2
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Looks like the Soviets got there first, Erik.
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I knew that the soviets landed first.

Did Lukenod (not sure of spelling) take pictures too? (the article does not say...)

[ January 07, 2004, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: eslaine ]

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I thought the Luna probes took pictures -- maybe not?
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Lunokhod

From Energia
1959 - Launch of interplanetary probe Luna-1, which accomplished the first lunar fly-by
1959 - Interplanetary probe Luna-2 was the first to reach the Moon's surface. It delivered there national symbols of the USSR.
1959 - Interplanetary probe Luna-3 took the first pictures of the far side of the Moon and transmitted them to Earth
1961 - Launch of the first interplanetary probe Venera-1 to Venus

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I accidentally caught Nova last night, and it was quite a dramatic display, complete with visuals from the Jan 3 2004 landing. My daughter was so excited she says she's going to be an astronaut now.
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Thanks for the closure, aspectre!

*trades uncapitalized cult handshake with "a"*

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Space.com has a gallery of pictures from Spirit.
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Yeah, it looks like Beagle really is a no show. That's too bad.

But I still think the media jumped the gun.

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eslaine
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You know, this thread has an interesting, space related quality.
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Noemon
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You know Erik, you're right! It's subtle, and I probably wouldn't have picked up on it myself, but it's there.
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Kinda "newsy" too!
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Noemon
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Now that I just don't see!
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Noemon
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And now for something completely different. A planet that heats its sun.
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Wow, that is very cool!
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Am I the only one who is waiting impatiently for someone to finally begin planning a manned base on the Moon?

I mean, it seems the next logical step. We have a space station that people live in for months at a time and we've even had a space tourist. So why not put a resort on the Moon?

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Just this morning I heard that Bush had proposed a lunar base, to be used as a launching point for missions to other points in the solar system. I haven't found a really good article on it yet, and since I heard it as I was waking up, it's possible that I dreamed some of the better details. Here's the story so far:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3381531.stm

Looks like we'll know more in a week or so.

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As posted to the Austin Astronomical Society email list ...
>
>
>
> Gusev Crater (MPI) - A spokesthing for Mars Air Force denounced as
> false rumors that an alien space craft crashed in the desert,
> outside of Ares Vallis on Saturday. Appearing at a press conference
> today, General Rgrmrmy The Lesser stated that "the object was, in
> fact, a harmless high-altitude weather balloon, not an alien
> spacecraft".
>
> The story broke late Saturday night when a major stationed at nearby
> Ares Vallis Air Force Base contacted the Gusev Crater Daily Record
> with a story about a strange, balloon-shaped object which allegedly
> came down in the nearby desert, "bouncing" several times before
> coming to a stop, and "deflating in a sudden explosion of alien
> gases." Minutes later, General Rgrmrmy The Lesser contacted the
> Daily Record telepathically to contradict the earlier report.
>
> General Rgrmrmy The Lesser stated that hysterical stories of a
> detachable vehicle roaming across the Martian desert were blatant
> fiction, provoked by incidences involving swamp gas. But the general
> public has been slow to accept the Air Force's explanation of recent
> events, preferring to speculate on the "other-worldly" nature of the
> crash debris. Conspiracy theorists have condemned Rgrmrmy's
> statements as evidence of "an obvious government cover-up," pointing
> out that Mars has no swamps. They point to the release of secret
> government memos detailing attempts to discredit reports of the
> landings by alien space craft. The memos discuss stategies to avoid
> troubles similar to those caused by the War of the Worlds radio
> program of years ago. The program, which featured a sensational
> story of gigantic oxygen breathing two-eyed invaders from Earth,
> sparked planet wide panic.
>
> Local residents like Driv Rhodo, who lives in the area of the
> alleged landings, are even more sceptical. "I seen it with my own 5
> eyes" claimed Rhodo last week. "I've lived here over 300 years, most
> of my adult life-form. Them things used to be few and far between
> but lately they come in every few years or so. The government wants
> to bury the truth but I can tell you what's real. The Earthlings are
> going to invade and the government is spending our hard earned tax
> dollars on press releases and denials instead of preparing for the
> battle to come." A spokesthing denied any government involvement in
> the disappearance of Rhodo, who has not been seen since shortly
> after the interview, claiming "Any sentient being knows that a
> planet with the concentrations of water and oxygen found on Earth is
> a deadly and inhospitable environment for the formation of life,
> much less intelligent life. The fear and consternation caused by the
> unfounded and wild speculations of citizens like Rhodo are a
> traitorous disservice to the citizens of Mars."
>

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[ROFL]
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Have the "unedited" versions of the lander's pics started showing up on the web yet? The ones with the cities and Martians and all that stuff not photoshopped out like Nasa always does before they issue them? <grins>
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Oh Dan, that's great! Did you compose it and post it to the Astronomical Society's list, or did you just get it from there? Either way, it's brilliant.

Here's something interesting--they've found a pulsar that is orbiting another pulsar. This is useful for two reasons: it allows scientists to further test the theory of general relativity, and also is providing a unique opportunity to examine the magnetosphere of one of the pulsars, while the other pulsar's beam of radiation is passing through it. Plus, it's cool!

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quote:
"Mars now is our sandbox, and we are ready to play and learn," said JPL director Charles Elachi.


In other words, Spirit is off and rolling!!!!

Here's one article...

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OK, somebody's gotta keep this thread alive with all the latest very cool space news:

ESA Portal - Europe's Eye on Mars: First Spectacular Results from Mars Express

Time Magazine Cover Story: Mission to Mars

Mars Soil Surprises Scientists

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Thanks sndrake! I saw that Time Magazine article last night at the grocery store, but I was already paying when I saw it, so I didn't get the magazine. I was planning on buying it tonight. You just saved me a couple of dollars!

For you:

An article that discusses why the rover hasn't started drilling into that rock yet, the colors we're seeing in the Mars pictures that rover has sent back, and more

A potential pack of beagles.

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I was afraid this would be updates about President Bush's press conference in Roswell.

Oh, and I did not create the Martian story. It was sent to me by another friend.

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As they say in comics, !@#$%&@#

[ January 22, 2004, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: Rappin' Ronnie Reagan ]

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Shazbat! Hope the planet didn't get its appetite back. [Frown]
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I was just coming to post that same story. Here's Space.com's article. I expect it's pretty much the same as RRR's, but I haven't read hers yet.
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040122/ap_on_sc/mars_rover_20

Here's a newer one saying it had to do with a thunderstorm in australia that disrupted communications so that the instruction signals never got to mars.

AJ

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I wish that were the case Bana--that's actually an older story. Now they're thinking that the rain in Austrailia didn't have anything to do with it.
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[Frown]
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