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SteveRogers
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I need help, desperately. Before I explain my situation, can anyone help me?
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Until you explain at least a little, no one will know if they can help you.
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Isn't there more than one HGttG game?
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If all you need is help with the game, yes, I can help you.
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SteveRogers
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Ok, I'm stuck on the Heart of Gold. I got there, and I met Trillian and Zaphod. But I left the bridge, and I can't get back. And I don't have any idea where Marvin's Pantry is. And I have to find it to get through the screening door. There are other things, but I think I can figure those out on my own.
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Please help, I'm very lost.
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Up and down work on some parts of the HoG. Go to the Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy web site ( the game not the movie) and go to the forums there, many people have played through it more then once some even try to beat it with the fewest moves.
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http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/Invisiclues/hhgg/

Link to a website that replicates the Invisiclues hints booklets that were originally published for Infocom text adventures such as HHGttG.

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HHGttG is almost impossible w/out clues/hints.
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(This is Tom.)
No, it's not. I solved it without clues without any difficulty.

You do NOT need to find Marvin's Pantry to get through the screening door. In fact, I think you've been reading and misunderstanding walkthroughs. [Smile]

To get through the first screening door, you must prove to the door that you have no common sense. To do this, you must be able to simultaneously hold tea and no tea at the same time. To do THIS, you must use the Infinite Improbability Generator to enter your own brain to remove the tiny particle of common sense that remains.

To do THIS, however, you must first provide a superior form of Brownian motion to the vector plotter, in the form of real tea. Which means that your FIRST mission is to obtain real tea -- which you can only do by fixing (or breaking) the Nutrimatic, ideally using a panel you'll find on Traal. This will require defeating the Bugblatter Beast.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, your first task is to figure out how to use the Infinite Improbability Generator in the engine room at the aft end of the ship. You'll need a vector plotter, the generator itself, and a cup of hot liquid that does not at this point have to be tea.

If you don't know what I mean when I say "aft end of the ship," I will say that you're altogether too trusting, and shouldn't believe everything the computer tells you, even if it tells you several times.

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If however you know EXACTLY what I mean, and know about Marvin's Pantry because you've actually been playing the game instead of reading hints, and are trying to get through the last door in the game (which requires Marvin's help), then....

Marvin needs a tool. You can only carry so many tools at this point, and he'll never need one you happen to be carrying -- UNLESS you can see the future just enough to tell which tool he's going to need when you get there.

I hope you've been reading the Guide. Specifically the Guide entries on fluff. You should have found quite a lot of fluff by now, which should have piqued your interest.

Read what the Guide has to say about fluff. Quite remarkably, the legend is accurate.

In a nutshell, you need to grow a tropical fluff plant in order to eat its remarkable fruit. (Luckily, the vision of the future this fruit will give you will be of a moment appropriate to winning the game, and not some useless thing you happen to be doing a few years from now.) This will require a flowerpot, a hot environment, and all the fluff in the game. If you haven't found every single bit of fluff, start looking harder.

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"No, it's not . I solved it without clues without any difficulty."

Then why give 10 paragraphs of hints?

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Because I'm not sure where Steve actually is in the game. [Smile] I suspect that he hasn't yet made it into the aft engine room, based on what he said about meeting Zaphod and Trillian -- but he specifically said he was trying to get into Marvin's Pantry, which doesn't happen until near the end of the game.
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Your hints and the link, that someone else provided, should be very helpful. I'll try to give it another whirl. I have to start a new game anyway. I forgot to get the toothbrush and screwdriver on the first level.
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Ack...I know that feeling.

The closest I ever got to the end, I discovered I had left a tool in the toolbox of Zaphod's boat. (I forget which one.) In trying to get back to that section and retrieve it, I materialized inside myself and exploded. [Frown]

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The thing your aunt gave you that you forget what it is is amazingly useful for carrying around all the ridiculous tools and bits of fluff you need to collect for the end of the game. [Smile]
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Yes, I know. I was sure I had the screwdriver (I think that's what it was). Go figure.
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... there's a HHGttG game? Wow, am I out of the loop.

OFFTOPIC: Was anyone else bothered by the ending of Mostly Harmless? I'm really just hungry for someone to tell me they've READ it. Not many SF fans where I live.

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I thought the ending of Mostly Harmless (*spoilers*) was a little strange. I could care less about the alien guy, but the bit about Ford laughing maniaclly over Arthur as Arthur blacked out disturbed me a little. There was no resolution.
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TomDavidson
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There was resolution. It was just BAD resolution.

See, Adams was going through a divorce and was contractually obligated to produce another Hitchhiker's book by a certain deadline, despite the fact that he was really, really sick of the characters by that point.

So -- SPOILERS TO FOLLOW -- the first thing he did was immediately and inexplicably strip Arthur of all his marital bliss and write a book about the search for love in the universe against a backdrop of evil corporations looking to snuff out creativity by producing increasingly cynical revisions of a once-great work. And the NEXT thing he did was KILL THEM ALL. With the exception of Zaphod, every single main character in the Hitchhiker's series is definitively dead at the end of Mostly Harmless, being trapped on the Earth when the Earth -- in ALL its incarnations, across all universes -- is blown to bits for astrological reasons. It's a relentlessly cynical book, and it's worth noting that the bits which feel the most free and lively -- Ford's return to the Guide offices, the encounter with "the King," and Arthur as the Sandwich Maker -- were written in much earlier drafts.

Adams said later that he regretted ending the series on such a mean-spirited note, and intended to someday return to "fix" things. But he died before he could.

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Oh man.

Tom, you are my hero. I was wondering why it ended like that-- and you're right, the book felt a lot different to me than the other ones. I'm left wondering if I should have just stuck with reading the first one or two.

I'm not going to lie, though. I didn't mourn the loss of Fenchurch, but I did wonder what the reasoning behind her just DISAPPEARINg was.

Sorry to get this thread offtopic, btw.

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I haven't played that game in two decades!
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Tom -- are you sure about the divorce bit? From what I remember from reading Neil Gaiman's book about Adams, Adams was only married once and never divorced. (But Gaiman's book about Adams did say that, yeah, Adams was in a really bitter mood when he wrote Mostly Harmless.)
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OK, I looked it up in one of the Adams biographies, and yep, Adams was only married the once. And he'd actually just married his wife several months before when he wrote Mostly Harmless. He was just in a really, really bad mood when he wrote the book.

(You know, I think this is the first time I can remember me being right about something and Tom being wrong about it...)

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Although Fenchurch might not qualify as a Major character, the fact that she was (apparently) not on the Earth when it was destroyed at the end of Mostly Harmless does present quite a loophole. The intent of the Vogons was to get rid of every trace of Earth, and to that end they manipulated all the characters back to Earth. However, they missed Fenchurch. If it was so important to get all the Earthlings in order for their plan to work, then this alone means that their plan failed.

I always thought that this tiny loophole could potentially be used to continue the series, should Adams ever feel so inclined. Oh, well.

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You know, that could work. I never thought of that. I applaud your brilliance.
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Is there still someone on this forum? Cause I was playing the BBC 30 years anniversary version of HHGttG and I got in a situation I can't find anything about online and I have no idea what to do.
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I still pop in occasionally, believe it or not. What's up?
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well i think it is because i failed some of the scenes from the heart of gold (for example i got back from earth as ford but forgot to give arthur the fluff) and now i when i got back at the HOG the game tells me this:
"there is a violent explosion around you, leaving you standing in the Bridge. The walls, floor, and ceiling are covered with little pieces of flesh and bone.

Apparently, you just materialsed inside your own brain. This is very very very nasty. You have two choices: quit now, or experience tis materialisation from the other end, in about five turns."

is there any possibility to save myself out of this or am i surely going to die and do i have to restart the game?

thanks for still showing up haha

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That's an unwinnable conundrum; you only get it if you've successfully completed the bit inside your own brain, then visit your brain again from the Dark. (The game kind of warns you not to come back here after finishing that sequence.)

You'll need to restore from a saved game.

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aah okay thank you. And there isn't any way to make sure i won't come back inside my own brain now is there?
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Not until you have real tea, which gives you some control over the process. But you can make sure to not feed the small dog if you get that sequence early, which will prevent you from beating the War Chamber bit and thus never send you to the "Maze."

Note that the pre-tea Dark sequences are randomized, which means you should be able to recognize which one you're in and reload if you get one that will kill you.

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okay, thank you very much!
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