Every community has traditions, and usually they give an added value to a group. It is surely the case of Hatrack. It is also generally a good idea to know a minimum about those traditions (and try to respect them) if one wants to be accepted in the community. (“When in Rome do as Romans do”.)
My knowledge is still quite limited, so I invite those with more knowledge to share it with the others, especially for the interested Newbies.
What I can share:
- A good written Landmark is generally well received. (Maybe someone can explain what a Landmark is in detail, where the tradition comes from and so on) - Bumping “dead horses” is generally badly received. - Newbies are generally not allowed to do X. (Is X a void set of actions, or not?) - Oldbies are generally allowed to do Y. (Maybe someone can explain what is the definition of an Oldbie, that is, when is a Newbie no longer a Newbie? I’ve heard this definition: “If you have to ask, then you’re still a Newbie” )
There are lots more of issues, like the value of having inside jokes or using multiple aliases and such. And that surely isn’t the end of it.
What can you share of your knowledge about the traditions of Hatrack?
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Posted by quidscribis (Member # 5124) on :
Haven't we had threads along these lines in the past? I'm thinking of the "Hey, Newbie! Yeah, you! Look in here!" thread in specific. Or, well, a thread with a title somewhat closely resembling that one.
Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
A search for “newbie” with the “Subject only” filter brought it, and many more threads, up.
Is there nothing to add to what those threads contain?
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Posted by SoaPiNuReYe (Member # 9144) on :
SuminonA, You should probably explain what a Mayfly is, since when I first came here I found it to be a little confusing.
Posted by Stray (Member # 4056) on :
I remember I had to ask what dobies were when I first got here. I think I figured out landmarks on my own, and guessed correctly about mayflies but asked just to be sure, or else it was the other way around.
Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
quote:Originally posted by SoaPiNuReYe: SuminonA, You should probably explain what a Mayfly is, since when I first came here I found it to be a little confusing.
Is that friendly irony, or are you suggesting that any thread containing the explanation of that specific concept is gone too fast off the first page that newbies don’t catch it?
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Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I think he's saying that we get a "what is a mayfly" thread at least five or six times a year. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Perhaps it would be more useful to simply be, to exist for a while here, among us, and let any knowledge that you'd expect this thread to impart be acquired naturally and painlessly, without urgency.
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
I think what Tom is trying to say is this. Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
<---- *being* Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
suminonA, your registration date is October 2005 and you've posted 1,085 times. I'm not sure why you're still so confused about the way things work around Hatrack.
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
I'm very confused about Hatrack myself.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
Heck, sometimes I get confused about Hatrack. Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
I think I felt like a newbie, even though I "got" most of the terminology, tones, and even in-jokes on Hatrack, until I had been here about 2 years.
Posted by Starsnuffer (Member # 8116) on :
So, seeing as this thread now exists... mind saying explicitly what a mayfly and what a dobie is? (no idea about first, something about a link with the second). Also, how do you change a thread title, as long as we're being newbly here.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
You edit the first post of a thread you created to change a thread title. I'm sure you could find out what a mayfly is and what a dobie is by searching, but I'll tell you anyway. A mayfly is a thread that will (or may be) deleted in a short period of time (basically, it's a warning to everyone that their posts may be deleted, as it is considered bad form to delete a thread that others have posted in without warning them adequately.) A dobie is a thread with a title that mimics the title of another thread, and includes a link to a site or page (often a joke page of some sort, but not always) that explains the thread title.
Posted by JonHecht (Member # 9712) on :
Let us grok each other.
Edit: Here's one (at least for me): when making a thread it isn't required that you capitalize the first letter of every word, but if you don't capitalize at least the first word, then I won't read it.
[ January 13, 2008, 08:42 PM: Message edited by: JonHecht ]
Posted by Phanto (Member # 5897) on :
I think the most important Hatrack tradition is helping Phanto with personal development and technological issues. It makes everyone feel good about themselves, and Phanto pays back with compounded interest cookie units (cici).
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
There used to be a really good newbie thread. I think ct started it.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
FAQ's for newcomers was the old classic
link Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
I think Hatrack's grandest tradition is that of being civil, intelligent, informative, warm, and funny the way very few forums manage to be. There is no quarter for trolls and flame wars here, not just because of excellent moderators like Kathy Kidd and Papa Moose, but because the entire community is interested in preserving the good thing we have here.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:There is no quarter for trolls and flame wars here
If only that were true.
Posted by Tante Shvester (Member # 8202) on :
Yeah. The troll toll is much higher than a quarter nowadays.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
you forgot the 'bug blayne for his grammarically and syntactically wrong posts'.
Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :
quote:Originally posted by Blayne Bradley: you forgot the 'bug blayne for his grammarically and syntactically wrong posts'.
It's gramatically. Geez, Blayne, get it right.
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:There is no quarter for trolls and flame wars here
If only that were true.
They do happen, but they're actively sniffed out and quashed. I suppose with a few notable exceptions. But they're not the norm by any means.
Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tammy: I'm not sure why you're still so confused about the way things work around Hatrack.
Can you guess how many false assumptions you seem to have made by writing that?
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Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Smugness = unattractive.
Posted by suminonA (Member # 8757) on :
Another Hathrack tradition is to ask for forgiveness after making a mistake, even if it was unintentional, or the tone was misinterpreted. It’s sometime sad that the interpretation of the sincerity/friendly tone is biased the wrong way.
Off topic: is there a way to defend oneself against the accusation of “smugness” without appearing even smugger for doing so? /off topic.
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PS: I'm sorry if my tone in the previous post was hinting toward smugness.
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: I think I felt like a newbie, even though I "got" most of the terminology, tones, and even in-jokes on Hatrack, until I had been here about 2 years.
I think I've finally stopped feeling like a newbie. Now I am mostly comfortable with my mostly-lurker status.
Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :
I'm perhaps a newbie in my post-count, but I consider myself to be a veteran since I've been lurking since....'03 or so. That's not to say that I understand or remember all of the quirks and interpersonal things that happen here, but I have a fond appreciation for the sense of community that Hatrack has.
I think that, most of all, is Hatrack's best tradition.
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