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Here's an interesting predicament. I've got a main character in an idea I'm working on who's basic nature does not make it easy to like her. She's a killer by nature, meaning that she has to kill to survive. Now, the story is mostly about her search to find some other way to deal with this situation. Nevertheless, in chapter 1 I have to introduce a 14 year old girl who has killed, will kill again, and I want people to be at least open to the possibility of sympathizing with her. Is this even possible?
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If you show me a 14-year-old girl who has to kill to survive, I will sympathize with her automatically.
Whether culturally or genetically, I'm programmed to respond by feeling protective if you put someone young and/or female in danger. Show us that she is in danger and kills to protect herself, and the only problem most people will have is that they will not like the society that puts her in a situation where she has to kill to survive. They won't hold it against her.
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It seems to me being the tender age of 14 is sympathetic in itself. I meet enough people who think teens by being teens makes them criminals. Do adults and the media not see that teens and others act as they are treated. Maybe you could work that.
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It would be even easier to sympathize if she hates having to do it - and possibly has nightmares about the things she's had to do.
You may have to be careful if she feels no remorse and it's her environment that forces these actions on her. That could easily lead to pity, which is probably not what you're looking for.
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Give her motive. A short story I did not to long ago, during a rewrite I discovered by adding a motive it conveyed sympathy from the reader. Well, I didn't actually want sympathy for my character, I wanted people to dispise him. Yes, this is not the usual desire for a main character, but its what I wanted. So the motive had to go, and with it went the sympathy.
So if you have a real reason for the main character to be a vile person then the reader can have the sympathy without having to continually justify it. I would imagine that anyone who could kill with ease would have already adjusted to the fact that is the way they are. And to continue to do kill requires that the person to some degree enjoys it. Maybe they like the fact that they now have supremacy over stronger people, and the motive for this is some form of abuse earlier in life that the character was made to feel subdued by a stronger person.
There are many reasons that could drive someone to enjoy killing, or feel it is necessary for survival. Giving a reason for thier attitued towards life can solicit the sympathy you want.
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Lord Darkstorm is right that you need to show us her motive.
But a motive per se is not enough. It needs to be a motive we can sympathize with. Compare:
In the fourteen years of her life, Jenna had been forced to kill seven men just to survive without being raped.
In the fourteen years of her life, Jenna had been forced to kill seven men just because they didn't prostrate themselves quickly enough as she walked past.
Either way, she's got a motive for the killings. But readers will sympathize with Jenna I, not Jenna II.
Now, of course, it would be possible to get readers to sympathize with Jenna II by explaining the society in such a way that we understand why she must kill men who are slow to show her the proper respect. But that's tougher than giving a motive we can readily understand.
You might think it would be difficult for readers to sympathize with a six-year-old kid who beats up and kills a classmate. But since OSC puts us inside Ender's head so we can understand why he was doing what he did, we can sympathize.
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Is it just me or does it seem to anyone that the initial post is about a character who is something like a vampire--she "must kill to survive" for some kind of biological reasons?
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Maccabeus, yes, you're absolutely right. She's not a vampire, but in much the same way, she must kill for biological reasons. I didn't say it straight out, maybe I should have.
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I did not get that, I can think of several reason why a young person, even a girl, can take to killing to survive.
Lets say there is a young girl that was born in the poverty part of a city. And for whatever city, whatever setting, there are people who would pay to spend a few hours with young children. Now you have a motive for a child be seriously messed up. Now if the parents are selling time with thier kid(s) to pay for thier addictions you throw in even further motive. Now lets say the child learns that death is a means to an end, it works. It may be repulsive and wrong, but at this point the child has no sense of wrong since they have been being subjected to wrong all thier lives. So once they find a means of ending thier own suffereing, it now becomes the main form of solving their problems. When in doubt, kill them, problem solved.
Ok, just one example, but it could be made very belivable and it could inspire allot of sympathy in conjunction with some disgust for the main character.
So all murderers that feel they have to kill to survive do not have to be a vampire or something in the same vein.
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That's what I thought. Christine, like Eric, I would sympathize with such a person without further elaboration. I would suggest you quickly make clear that the girl's only choice is to kill or die, and demonstrate the emotional pain she goes through over it (I'm assuming she does feel this; otherwise my sympathy dwindles rapidly). There will be some people to whom it doesn't matter how involuntary an action is--I don't know how many of them--but I'm not among them.
Eric, now you've made me want to write about a character like Jenna II. A noble, no doubt--perhaps the heir to a throne. By law, all of lower station must prostrate themselves in her presence, and the ruling family believes that failing to enforce the law will generate rebellion and anarchy (perhaps they are right!). Jenna does not feel her royal position is all that important, but perhaps she believes the same as her family. Or perhaps her family will know and punish her severely if she does not uphold the law...
Gah!
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I'm afraid that Christine might not have been very clear on why her character is a killer by nature. I think that she may be talking about a werewolf, not just a human that is forced to kill to survive. She actually (if I recall previous discussions of this character correctly--which may not be the case, as a matter of fact I'm almost certain I'm confabulating this point) needs to kill (and eat?) humans at certain times in order to stay alive. Oh, wait, she clarified that.
By the way, OSC starts one of his books off with a 14 year old female assassin, who kills people (some of them perfectly nice people that she liked just fine alive) on the orders of her government. She is, of course, the main character. Card can be a sicko that way, but he generates sympathy for characters engaged in strange activities all the time (see Card's short story Holy).
Anyway, Darkstorm and Eric are right about the point of showing her as having good motives. She doesn't actually have to have a good motive for killing per se if it isn't a conscious act on her part (I mean, if she can't help herself), but she does have to be presented as a good (and likeable) person in most other ways, including the various suggestions that she have suffer from feelings of guilt over killing people. She should also have attempted to not kill in the past, and make a conscious effort to kill as little as possible.
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