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Eric Sherman
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'Gray' is the working title of my first large scale story. I’m planning to begin it almost with a short story, to give the readers and me a feel for the main character, Dustin Colvert.

I’m in a spot of trouble about how to begin. I wouldn't normally worry about it but this is my first time trying to establish a good 'hook', and I'm not sure which one works better.

So, forgive me if this seems disrespectful, but I’m going to post two different beginnings, and ask your opinions on them.

Number 1:

Dustin walked with his Dad to the garage. His father did not hold his hand, and Dustin had long given up trying to hold his fathers’ attention for more than the time it took his father to grunt a reply to whatever was on Dustin’s mind. His fathers mind was always away on other things when he was about to take off.
Dustin walked slowly, looking up at the back of his fathers neck. His father always walked with a purpose, with the unquestionable gait of a man used to live in zero gravity.
“How long this time?” Dustin said. A year ago it would have been a cheerful question, but
Dusting was thirteen, too old to be optimistic and too young to do anything about it.
“A while. Job’s have been scarce.” His father said. Dustin nodded, and then stopped walking. They were at the garage.
His father’s fingers danced on the keypad and the garage door opened with a slow groan. Inside, the lights reluctantly flickered on, and his father walked straight to his ship.

And behind door number 2:

“ The smell. That’s the first thing I remembered of that day.”
“ What kind of smell?”
“A sick smell, oil, blood, and tears. It’s a smell that’s never left me since the accident” Dustin said. He shuffled in his seat, staring down at the faded carpet.
“ Haven’t we been through this already?” He asked.
The doctor shook his head.
“ I’ve told you, Mr. Colvert, it’s best that we start with what you remember. It may help you to recall more of what happened.”
“ Sorry, I must’ve forgotten about that.” Dustin grinned. The doctor folded his arms, disapproval apparent.
“ You have to be serious about this, Dustin. We reconstructed the damaged part of your brain, but you have to remember what you can.”
Dustin did his best robot impression, mock-plugging a cord into the side of his head.
“ Recalling and storing data…now.” He said in monotone.
“ Really Dustin, your almost thirteen years old. Try to act like a young man.”
“Alright…”

Alright, the first thing that happened that day… I was walking with my dad to the garage. He didn’t hold my hand or anything cozy like that, and I didn’t exactly press the issue. My dad was always a little spacey when he was getting ready to go off on a trip.


[This message has been edited by Eric Sherman (edited April 29, 2004).]


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Gwalchmai
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The first one for me, all the way. I like it.

It is much more subtle than the second one, which feels more forced, as if you are striving for the hook. I could also feel for Dustin and his situation by the end of the first piece, whereas in the second I wasn't really feeling anything.


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Eric Sherman
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I forgot to add that all the information in the first one will be in the second, if that wasn't apparent. I simply posted (roughly)the first 13 lines of each.

My opinion on the first one is that nothing has really been happening, but in the second one you already know that something will go wrong. But I'm asking for your opinons, not mine.

Thanks for the quick response, by the way.


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Welcome to the boards!

I agree with Gwalchmai that the first opening is the stronger. In general, I feel like openings that start with some kind of flashback are problematic. We do know something is going to happen, but we haven't been given a reason to care about that. I'm much more likely to be hooked by something small-- and once I care, knowing something is happening will have a lot more impact.


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Gen- I see your point. I think I will rewrite the first one anyways though. It feels and flows better when I do it in first person. I think it allows me to get into Dustin's head and be able to show the reader more of his personality. Mabye its just me, but the first one seems a little flat on that part?

Here's what I mean:

"Dustin walked with his Dad to the garage. His father did not hold his hand, and Dustin had long given up trying to hold his fathers’ attention for more than the time it took his father to grunt a reply to whatever was on Dustin’s mind. His fathers mind was always away on other things when he was about to take off."

Or

"Alright, the first thing that happened that day… I was walking with my dad to the garage. He didn’t hold my hand or anything cozy like that, and I didn’t exactly press the issue. My dad was always a little spacey when he was getting ready to go off on a trip."

I think the second 'feels' better? Opening the story up might be more of a challenge, but do you think the second would be better to tell the story from. I realize it might be hard to tell without knowing the whole story, but I don't have much to tell yet. :-/



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My opinion was structural-- based on where you were starting in the structure of the story, not whether or not it was told in first person. If you think a first person tale told to someone in the medical profession would be stronger, you could add a header saying something like "Account of Codename Phyllic, Patient 379b, Stardate 59.3, Mayierta Base Medical Center." Or you could just start in. It depends. If you're trying to put a first person past tense narrator in serious danger and make the reader believe it, that tense could be problematic. Otherwise, I don't know enough about the story to say anything.
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"If you're trying to put a first person past tense narrator in serious danger and make the reader believe it, that tense could be problematic."

Im confused. I assume you mean that if the reader will assume that since the person is telling the story, they must survive? I think we know that about almost any story we read, or movie we see. We know the hero survies this, but we still dont know how he does. Is that what you meant?

Once again, im amazed at the quick response!


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The first one works better. That said, I sense a bit more craft in the second one.

If you really like the second one, you could try using it as a pure dialogue vingette heading a reworked version of the first one. Only through "it's best that we start with what you remember." And pure dialogue meaning nothing but words in quotes.

For a better hook, try deepening the POV a bit. We really aren't in Dustin's head so much as we are occasionally getting explication about his relationship with his father.

Also, watch your syntax. There are a number of points in the text that simply don't mean anything as written. The reader is forced to take a bunch of words and rearrange them into a sensible whole...perhaps not the one you intend.

One note, change "garage" to hangar, nothing is served by confusing the reader, and until the very last line I was wondering whether you meant that the father was going to drive somewhere.


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Is there a way that you could combine the two? I really liked the complete picture that both examples gave, but I felt jolted when the beginning started with dialogue. So maybe he could be reliving the day in his mind, and then be interrupted by the Dr.'s questions...?

Just an idea.

~L.L.


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I have to tell you, I really liked the first one. And no, I had no trouble getting inside Dustin's head with it. I think you did a great job of getting me there. Another thing, as a reader, I am not partial to first-person narrative. And here's why--I know of few authors who can manipulate first-person narrative so that the main character doesn't show too much personal flaw. When the character becomes shallow because of the excess of personality flaws I completely lose empathy with them and soon lose interest in reading. Secondly, first person often disallows the more thorough exploration of characters that are often more or as interesting as the main one. Thirdly, I love well-written descriptions, and when the storyteller is the main character, or a character within the story, these descriptions often sound too forced--they often do not remain consistent with the narrator's character. Particularly when the main character is young. Consider interspersing the third-person narrative with snippets of the "interview" peppered throughout.

And one more thing. I want to know exactly what a person's gait looks like who is used to living in zero G. I am incredibly curious because I really liked that line, "...the unquestionable gait of a man used to life in zero gravity." This is a prime example of what I said above about first-person narrative. A thirteen-year-old kid would never put words together that beautifully.


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djvdakota- thanks for the feedback. I’m still undecided on the POV issue...i will probably write it out in 1st person for awhile and see how it goes. Let me know if you'd be interested in hearing more of it when i do to see if it is as well written.

"And one more thing. I want to know exactly what a person's gait looks like who is used to living in zero G. I am incredibly curious because I really liked that line, "...the unquestionable gait of a man used to life in zero gravity." This is a prime example of what I said above about first-person narrative. A thirteen-year-old kid would never put words together that beautifully. "

Would something like (I’m making it up right here) " My dad walked like he wasn't used to it, flopping around like a duck trying to get off the ground. It probably came from living on his ship most of the time, floating around, looking for the odd job. Why he couldn't do that planet side I didn't know, and he wasn't exactly willing to talk about it." work better? One of my problems writing that more specifically is I’m not sure what a person would look like if they were used to zero g. To me, i would think they would move deliberately, but maybe they glide smoothly, or move only a little bit at a time. I was hoping the readers would come up with their own conclusion.

Thanks for the comments guys, I’m really starting to get this nailed down thanks to you. Any more thoughts are always welcome.


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Brilliant and convincing description of his gait! The great thing about Spec. Fic. is that you pretty much have to make most of it up as you go. The art is to make it convincing enough that the reader believes. Success!
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To me the "zero g gait" sounded like it would be a modified version of a sailor's gait. That comes from being used to walking on a surface that doesn't hold still...a person used to zero g might have a fairly similar gait, with important differences.

It is enough that his gait clearly marks him as someone that spends a lot of time in zero g, that's how his son would think of that walk...the walk that marks his dad out as a spacer. I like the phrase just fine the way it is.


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