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Lorien
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Ok, so this is the only part of the story actually written. There is no title. I don't know how long it will be. It is set in a future society, not on Earth, with intersteller travel commonplace. Clearly, any comments are useful, but I'm also wondering if you are thinking:
1) I am going to have a hard time respecting characters only 2 feet tall with wings
2) It is weird to have such characters in a technological society

Also, I just did a search on the name Morwen and realize it comes from Tolkien. This was unintentional and I may change it. I like it though.

Thanks!

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Even before the silver spikes of the settlement city jutted above the treetops, Morwen knew the shield was up. So, the Regional Governor didn’t even have enough class to make a display of respect for the delegation. Anger surged through her as she caught a warm updraft and glided above the forest, looking for more open displays of hostility. Strong hands pulled forcefully on the trailing folds of her state robes, bringing her once again below the canopy.

Morwen folded her wings and turned to face the wizened eyes of the royal advisor. “Your mother’s confidence is not wholly without doubt,” Fushma shook his head, “3000 is too young for this kind of responsibility. You have endangered our mission by allowing your anger to make you reckless. Do you think you will better serve the will of Vinya sliced in two by an offworlder’s blast?”


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Christine
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Let me answer your questions first, and then addres the opening, because honestly they are two separate things in my mind.

As my favorite novel project (though currently put on indefinite hold)deals with four foot tall winged humanoid aliens in an advanced, spacefaring society, I had better be able to sympathize with yours or bury my own novel project in a graveyard.

But the opening did not work at all for me. I had no idea what was going on. In fact, if you had not asked the questions about the creatures, I would not have known what Morwen looked like at all. As it is, I am still having trouble visualizing her. What kind of wings? Bird wings? Bat wings? Fairy wings?

I did ont follow the first paragraph because I hvae no reference point. It completely lost me when strong hands pulled her down....wasn't she above the treetops? How could they do that? (Keep in mind that at that point, I am imagining her on a handglider....we assume, to begin with, that our characters are human precisely. It is a challenge for those of us who are trying to describe a strange creature, especially in her own POV.)

In the second paragraph you make vague references to things I don't know about. The royal advisor plucked her out of the sky? That doesn't seem right. Then he talks about her task...but what task? What's going on?

There is a fine art to unwinding complex information and background and starting a story in such a way that a reader understands and sympathizes. An information dump at the beginning takes away from the sympathy part, but launcyhing into action with no information is problematic on the understanding front. The trick, IMO, is to find something in all of this that a reader in the modern world can understand and reatle to, something that is going on in their lives. I had a hint that Morwen was doing something she was not supposed to be doing...something she was not old enough to be doing. Is that true or am I completely lost on that one? We can understand teenage rebellion (even if you tell us that their teenagehood is older than ours). We can understand war and hate and love and lust.

But a shielded city in the trees is meaningless...it does not even tell us if you are writing science fiction or fantasy, because these concepts come up in both genres.

My advice: Don't nix the concept, keep working on it. As I said before, there's nothing wrong with winged creatures in a tech society at all. But I do think that at some point (maybe not even now if you're in a rythm...just keep going and come back to it later) you will want to rework the beginning.


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Ok, one thing that stands out to me, is where it goes "So the regional governor...." I understand that Morwen is thinking it, but wouldn't " she thought " help the readers?

But otherwise, I think it is ok.

-BHJr-

[This message has been edited by Monolith (edited June 29, 2004).]


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Lorien
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Ok, I will try again. I have a few ideas how to fix it. Thanks for your comments.
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I disagree with Monolith. Not to say you're wrong Monolith, but my preference goes against what you said. Personally, I like that stream of thought kind of story-telling, where the POV character's thoughts are woven right into the narration with no seperation. Why do you think that's not good?
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rickfisher
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1) I also found it confusing. I had to read it twice and still didn't feel totally comfortable.
2) The only problem I would have with 2-foot tall creatures is, are they big enough to be intelligent? It's not at all impossible, but it is something you need to think about.
3) I agree with Wetwilly. I think it's perfectly clear here (one of the things that is clear) that the sentence refers to her thoughts.

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You're moving too quickly, not explaining clearly.

Even before the silver spikes of the settlement city jutted above the treetops, Morwen knew the shield was up. So, the Regional Governor didn’t even have enough class to make a display of respect for the delegation. Anger surged through her as she caught a warm updraft and glided above the forest, looking for more open displays of hostility.

Oyy! So confusing! What does this all mean? What's happening? I can decipher, after rereading it, that there's some kind of shield, and some kind of Regional Governor behind it.

But still, it's far too unclear and no reader is going to be so generous as to plod through a long work of that kind of cloudy writing.


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It seems obvious that you need to make it a little more explicit that the settlement city and the Regional Governor are off-worlders, technologically more advanced than the natives.

I suggest that you call it "the off-worlder city/settlement/colony" or something like that. Similarly, you might say "this 'Regional Governor', arbitrarily claiming lordship over so many worlds in the name of his distant emperor/president/Federation, didn't...", which makes it much clearer what a Regional Governor is.

It also seems clear that there is some difficulty with getting into Morwen's biology. I think that if you made it more explicit that her people are indigenous and the RG et al are the star-faring race, it would be easier for the readers to pick up on the fact that she is flying by some natural ability rather than any technology.

I will note that if the native technolgy is advanced enough for them to have air vehicles, then they would almost certainly be using them in this case, just as we don't walk long distances wearing formal clothing. Anything that a two-foot long creature can wear and still maintain flight isn't going to be very durable and inexpensive. I clearly got the impression that Morwen's people had very limited technological resources when it came to air transport and weapons.

For both your enumerated questions, the answer is no.

Also, I like the opening well enough, I just think that it is clear that some of what you intend to say is getting lost.


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Hmmm, I did not think of this issue that flying makes them seem untechnological. I will have to fix that impression. I guess maybe the best way to introduce their biology is when they meet with the RG and offworlders who are normal humanoid. The winged people are star-faring too, so I guess I have to make that clear as well, but maybe it won't be a problem if I just make them seem more advanced.

Thanks, I'll work on this.

[This message has been edited by Lorien (edited June 30, 2004).]


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It is about the equivalent of showing a human traveling to an important meeting with off-worlders on foot.

If you specifically mention a vehicle in which she was riding (or perhaps weapons carried by the delegation's guards) that would help offset the tendancy to assume that her people lack such things.

Remember, all deviations from the readers natural preconceptions must be explicitly mentioned. In this case, we have a group of people that refer to the RG and inhabitants of the technologically advanced cities as "off-worlders" to be distrusted. Therefore, it would require a fairly remarkable argument to persuade us that there is really technological parity. If they can't even stop these people from travelling however many light-years and building a city smack dab in their forests, then just how do they have technological parity?


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Lorien
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Ok, so these people allowed the offworlder's to settle there as part of a treaty with the Empire (or whatever) 300 years ago. Even though the winged race is long lived, humans are not and they continually violate the treaty with each new generation. The delegation is going to the city to put things back in order. They are most certainly still in control of their planet, not the offworlders.

I avoided the open display of weapons on the winged people's part because I want them to fight with mainly biological weapons and because their race wants to be as unlike humans as possible. Thus, all they would need is some kind of defense against human weapons.

But I guess the point is made that the winged race seems primitive and the offworlder's advanced. This is not at all what I intended to convey and will clearly have to change some the description.


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Sorry, forgot to answer your original questions in my post. No and no.
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Thanks for all the replies! Your suggestions and comments have been most useful. I think I will wait to post again until I have a bit more written and fleshed out.
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