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BruceWayne1
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Don'tknow if I like this any better, try to please everyone, but I am here to learn so what do you all think?

Sleep had not come easily for Hansson Gailbraith. He was irritated at having been awakened; however he knew Liam, his second, would not have called unless it was important.
“This is Gailbraith,” he said
“Sir we are tracking an event horizon. It is on an intercept vector and will arrive in less than four minutes.”
“Another ship?” He knew the odds were against it being another ship this far below the galactic plane. Yet he hoped.
“No sir, too small, too fast.” Hansson knew that meant only one thing; it was a Chosen.
“Thank you, I’ll be right up.” Hansson noted the young...


this version gets rid of anything sounding like star trek, it gets rid of the meeting (it isn't needed until later in the stories), straight to the story.

compared to my last post called 'far future'

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Christine
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Hi! Been a while since I've been active in F&F but I thought I'd poke my nose in here today and see what looked interesting. I didn't look at your previous draft, so this is a fresh perspective. If it helps, though, I didn't think of Star Trek when I read this.

As I read through this, my biggest problem was honestly the flow and structure. This is a hard nut to crack and to be honest, I usually don't try when this is the issue I see, but I'm feeling ambitious today.

Plus, there were a couple of things in here that intrigued me and I want to see if I can help you bring them to life a bit more.

"Sleep had not come easily for Hansson Gailbraith. He was irritated at having been awakened; however he knew Liam, his second, would not have called unless it was important."

I see a flow problem here. The first big of information I have about this story is that this guy Hanson had trouble falling asleep. Next thing I know he's woken up and I am told (not shown) that his second wouldn't do that without good reason. I'm sure, logically, as I read this, that you telling me that is supposed to make me feel a sense of urgency. But it's hard to feel that because what this paragraph really fails to do, IMHO, is put me in the moment. A paragraph that puts me in the moment would have shown me Hanson tossing and turning. It would have followed him into that moment where sleep finally overtook him and then the aggrivation a moment later when his sleep is interrupted. I'm not even sure it's necessary to say that the second wouldn't have interrupted him if it weren't important. Since you're starting out your story with it, I'm going to go ahead and assume it's important.

“This is the Gailbraith,” he said

This confused me a bit. What do you mean by *the* Gailbraith? What is a Gailbraith? I thought that was his last name but this makes it seem more like a title. If it is a title, and if we have an English translation, I highly suggest that you use it. A rule of thumb in Science Fiction and fantasy (that I'm pretty sure is in "How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy" by OSC) is that you make up a word if we have no word for it. I'm a big fan of that particular idea.

“Sir ****comma*** we are tracking an event horizon. It is on an intercept vector and will arrive in less than four minutes.”
“Another ship?” He knew the odds were against it being another ship this far below the galactic plane. Yet he hoped.

I liked this last part..."Yet he hoped." It begins to give me an inkling of what is going on here. I expect to understand this hope shortly, although I respect that he's busy right now and his mind is on other things. It makes me feel like he's lost and it really begins the tension of the story.

“No sir, too small, too fast.” Hansson knew that meant only one thing; it was a Chosen.

Since Hanson didn't say the dialogue here, the last sentence should be a knew paragraph, I think. I am curious about what a Chosen is. If this is the sort of thing that can be explained or introduced briefly (in a short paragraph, prefereably a sentence) it might help our understanding to know at this point.

Anyway, hope thiese comments help. I know you can get into a cycle where you rewrite and get comments and rewrite and get comments and...on and on and on. It never ends.


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BruceWayne1
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great comments thanks, THE Gailbraith is a typo left from a former edition, I feel silly for having missed it. yes It is his name nothing more.

i don't like the first couple of lines as well as I did before, just trying something new.

thanks good stuff,


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Consider this possibility:
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Sleep had not come easily for Captain Hannson Gailbraith. The evil robot monkeys were everywhere, and they loved to jump on the beds of sleeping space travelers to wake them up before feasting on them. That wasn't the final view of this world that Gailbraith wanted.

First Officer Liam awakened him. He would not have called unless it was important.

"Sir," Liam said, "we are tracking an event horizon."



Now, I doubt your story has evil robot monkeys in it , but my point is, since we know the captain has something to worry about, you may as well hook us with that -- as well as the ship they're detecting. Now we know *why* Gailbraith had a rough time getting to sleep, and a reason to care about the disturbance.

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BruceWayne1
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great thanks
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BruceWayne1
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Interesting I got rid of the 'captain' and 'first officer' tags to sound less military (just to try it out, personally I like the military sound even at the risk of involking the ghost of star trek past) and you slid them back in. I think they sound natural for a space ship.

thanks for the rewrite example and explanation Wbriggs.


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As a hook this doesn’t do it for me. It’s far too slow. And your characters are rather apathetic. It’s like they don’t even care that a Chosen is aprocahing. So why should I?

How should the captain react to the knowledge that there’s a life-form traveling faster than the speed of light on a collision course with his vessel?

“Thank you I’ll be right up.” He sounds more like his mom just woke him up for school.

And his second, who would also be aware of the Chosen says,
“Sir we are tracking an event horizon. It is on an intercept vector and will arrive in less than four minutes.”

Imagine if the watchman in a story about the titanic said,“I can clearly see a large glacial mass. It is directly in our path.” Instead of “Ice Berg, dead Ahead!”

I know you’re trying to create a starship with strict procedures and heirchies, but you can use the same information about tracking an event horizon and the like while conveying a since of urgency. Perhaps use the phrase ETA instead of “It will arrive in less than.”


Best!
-Donelle


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Donelle, that's the point. It's the police. Not a really big deal under 'normal' curcumstances. only the 21st century readers, you all, have read into it such alarm. The captain is alarmed because he has a bag of pot under the seat, empties in the back seat, so to speak not about the Chosen, they have been around for 40,000 years of recorded history.I get your point, though. I had not really thought of it that way, thanks

you have caused me to re-examine things, that is what we are here for. I will remember to pay attention to that in the future.

the ETA thing, again a retrofit, trying it on for size to avoid nautical or military terms. I actually feel the way you do but the last and/or next advice I get will be ETA - that's too Star Trekie.

Hope I haven't sounded like I'm arguing or anything I am not. All of your advice is new to me and very valuable. I would dearly love to find a group around home to interact live with other writers. (well, ok writers, not 'other', that would imply that I fancy myself a writer too.)


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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
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BruceWayne1, this is probably going to drive you crazy, but when I look at your "13 lines" this time, there is room in the posting box for two more lines.

I'm going to go try Firefox and see how both of your "far future" 13 lines look with it.


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Ships have captains. That's not trekkish, it's just the way things are. If the meeting wasn't going to play a critical role in the previous opening...I don't know what to say.
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BruceWayne1
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Thanks anyhow Survivor it is all different now and as always I have learned TONS from you and everyone who comments.

THANKS


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I will say that "a Chosen" sounds wrong. "One of the Chosen" or "a Chosen one" fits much better.
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Long time since I posted anything. I have one nit, but it is a big one. While I am not a big fan of "Hard SF" I have read a lot of it. The term Event Horizon refers to the first thing one would see if they were travelling at or near the speed of light. Vision focuses down (according to Mr. Einstein) into a tube and the Event Horizon is the dot at the end of the tube. Now I say this because you cannot see the event horizon of another thing, you can only see your own. Therefore the Second should tell the Captain that he sees something ON the Event Horizon. That would make a lot more sence from a physics point of view. It might also tell the reader that the ship was travelling at or near or possibly faster than the speed of light.

Or so I heard.


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BruceWayne1
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Thanks for the event horizon info. the idea is FTL travel which throws the normal terms out. I may want to make up a term or way to track something at FTL speeds since you couldn't see it coming, obviously. any ideas.

plus I just like the sound of it


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You can also observe the same phenomenon when you look at a black hole from the outside (it's what creates the "hole" of the black hole). "Event horizon" more generally simply means the limit at which it becomes impossible for light to transmit events, so it applies to multiple relativistic situations.

But then, I already suggested that you should say "singularity" rather than "event horizon", since specifying that the event horizon is moving implies that the associated singularity is not.


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