Hatrack River Writers Workshop   
my profile login | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Hatrack River Writers Workshop » Forums » Fragments and Feedback for Short Works » Bisected Man

   
Author Topic: Bisected Man
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
From my desk, I stared out at the lunar landscape as I waited. Embedded within the walls of Arizona Dome, responsive sensors slaved to my eyes gifted a kind of digital beauty to the stark monochrome view. Coloured highlights and layers of factual data flowed across the pockmarked lunar surface. I hardly noticed.
My fingers tapped a rhythm of their own on the hard teak. My uncle wouldn’t be long; he never missed an opportunity to gloat.
Chroma-grain in the desk's surface flickered into life and JULIE smiled up at me.
“Your uncle, Martin Andrews, is here to see you, sir,” the android said. Her blue eyes twinkled.
I lifted my chin. I’d expected him to tri-vis me, but obviously he wanted to grind me into the lunar dust in person.
“Show him in Julie, and hold any other business.”


REVISED VERSION BELOW--3rd Person Version.


[This message has been edited by skadder (edited October 03, 2008).]


Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
snapper
Member
Member # 7299

 - posted      Profile for snapper   Email snapper         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
From my desk, I stared out at the lunar landscape as I waited.

Cut those first three words, or you may want to rearrange it.

quote:
Coloured highlights and layers of factual data flowed across the pockmarked lunar surface.

You really need to consider learning to spell wrong and get rid of those british 'u's. The flowing of data across the lunar surface is a head scratcher. Is it moving across the window like a ticker tape?


quote:
Chroma-grain in the desk's surface flickered into life and JULIE smiled up at me.

Also confusing, is the android built into the desk or is it a reflexion?

Nevertheless, it's a pretty smooth opening.


Posts: 3072 | Registered: Dec 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
MrsBrown
Member
Member # 5195

 - posted      Profile for MrsBrown   Email MrsBrown         Edit/Delete Post 
I think you are saying he is not looking out a window, but rather getting a direct feed from outside cameras into his eyes. Yes? It could be a bit clearer.

Could he glance at the blank, windowless wall and see the lunar landscape streaming by in the digital background?

Or is the landscape projected on a wall screen?

EDIT: Oh. There's a window looking out, and the digital feed is the overlaid data. Yes?

Maybe The chroma-grain ?

Otherwise I like this. Interesting technology and ordinary relationship tension are both "hooky".

[This message has been edited by MrsBrown (edited September 30, 2008).]


Posts: 785 | Registered: Mar 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
I refrained from commenting on snapper's post to see if it confused others too.

quote:
EDIT: Oh. There's a window looking out, and the digital feed is the overlaid data. Yes?

Correct. The sensors in the transparent dome walls monitor his eye movements and enhance his view to make it more interesting, as well as providing factual data.

It is obviously a bit confusing.

Chroma-grain is meant to suggest that the teak desk has some sort of screen embedded within its grain structure. The image he sees is of his android secretary.


Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
bluephoenix
Member
Member # 7397

 - posted      Profile for bluephoenix   Email bluephoenix         Edit/Delete Post 
Heya - here's what I thought.

'From my desk, I stared out at the lunar landscape as I waited' - it's not a bad opening line... I dunno. I'd be tempted to switch the details around, and start with the highlights and data flowing across the lunar surface, and then work in the desk and the waiting afterwards. Otherwise, what are you opening on? Person, on moon, staring [metaphorically] out of a window.

'responsive sensors slaved to my eyes' - I found this confusing; 'slaved to my eyes' is a little ambiguous.

'My uncle wouldn’t be long; he never missed an opportunity to gloat' - it gets more interesting, now. You know, I'm tempted to suggest cutting the lunar view entirely and starting here instead. You'd need to insert the word 'desk' into the 'hard teak' bit somewhere (and possibly change 'desk's surface' later on to something else) I suppose, but it could work. I guess my problem is, I don't see what the current opening paragraph adds to the story (other than guy is on moon (which you could easily work in with a word or two further down), and he has weird topographic camera-vision for some reason).

'Chroma-grain in the desk's surface' - 'Chroma-grain' as a plural? Mmm, not sure about that. I'd suggest either 'Chroma-grains in the desk's...' or 'The chroma-grain in the desk's...'. That said, I had no trouble with the concept itself.

As I say, I am interested, but only from after the first paragraph, and I think the lunar vision thing could do with a little clearing up (if you don't scrap it).

quote:
You really need to consider learning to spell wrong and get rid of those british 'u's.
- only when submitting to an American publisher; I don't see how it's necessary on Hatrack.

quote:
Cut those first three words, or you may want to rearrange it.
- agreed.

Hope this helped,
Daniel.

[This message has been edited by bluephoenix (edited October 01, 2008).]


Posts: 153 | Registered: Dec 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TaleSpinner
Member
Member # 5638

 - posted      Profile for TaleSpinner   Email TaleSpinner         Edit/Delete Post 
Just a couple of comments.

I didn't feel confused. I got and liked the slaved sensors and the chroma-grain. (In fact, I'd rather feel confused by a narrator who doesn't talk down to me, than patronised by one who does.)

"as I waited" I think it would be natural to complete the sentence with "for my uncle", or some such. He knows what he's waiting for and it feels a little like witholding, though not much because we find out soon enough.

"responsive sensors slaved to my eyes gifted a kind of digital beauty" I hesitated over "responsive" because I think sensors are, by definition, responsive. It took a moment to realize that "responsive" referred to being slaved to the movement of his eyes. Also, I thought that "gifted" was an odd word choice--not wrong, just odd; maybe it's a taste thing.

I wondered why Julie appears once in caps, once normal.

I like the casual mention of "tri-vis", we know exactly what it is.

The scene is well drawn, for me, but not quite enough to pull me in. I might read on, but cautiously, for I'd really like to know--quite quickly--what's bothering them.

Hope this helps,
Pat

[This message has been edited by TaleSpinner (edited October 02, 2008).]


Posts: 1796 | Registered: Jun 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks guys for your comments.

Daniel

Dust on the window sill reflected the evening sun.

Isn't that the same as 'Chroma-grain on the the desk's surface...'?

Wood has a grain structure and is referred to as grain. Perhaps you thought I was refering to particles (grains of something), which this is not. It is more of a technical stucture grown within the tree (genetically manipulated).

Talespinner.

JULIE is the technical name of the android and I thought if I caps'd it, it would be clearer. Obviously when the guy speaks he can't speak in caps.

[This message has been edited by skadder (edited October 02, 2008).]


Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
May do this story in 3rd...I will post a third person version.
Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
bluephoenix
Member
Member # 7397

 - posted      Profile for bluephoenix   Email bluephoenix         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Wood has a grain structure and is referred to as grain. Perhaps you thought I was refering to particles (grains of something), which this is not. It is more of a technical stucture grown within the tree (genetically manipulated).

I did indeed think it was 'grains of something' (see below), but it still has to be THE grain here. You couldn't say 'I looked at grain of the wood' or 'Grain in the wood gave it a nice texture' - you have to use 'the grain', and hence it has to be THE Chroma-grain [in the wood].

quote:
Dust on the window sill reflected the evening sun.

Isn't that the same as 'Chroma-grain in the the desk's surface...'?


No. In linguistic terms, dust is a layer (a singular object) - a group of particles, not a lone one (you can't say 'the ornament was covered in dusts', unless you mean several kinds of dust), which is why it can stand on its own. The 'The' is implicit. Grain, unfortunately, can be plural (give the horse some grain, etc) as well as singular (a grain of sand). Unless you clarify it as either grain singular (a grain / the wood grain, etc) or grain plural, it is ambiguous.

Ignoring Chroma for a moment (which is just a prefix and changes nothing), if I said 'there was grain in the bowl', it would mean lots of little particles; if I say 'there was grain in the wood' without an 'a', it could still mean lots of little particles, mashed into the wood somehow. This is why I thought that it was Chroma-grain[s] plural, and why that sentence needs to start with a 'The' (to make it singular - to make it like 'Dust').


Posts: 153 | Registered: Dec 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
Daniel,

Thanks for the explaination. Your logic does sound right to me and I will correct it.

Out of interest, I know you are studying at university, but are you studying liguistics or english? Your analysis was very comprehensive. To be honest, I just wrote it the way it came out of my brain (ambiguosly, I agree), but since I knew what I meant it made sense to me.

Thanks for the help.

Adam


Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
Third Person Version:

Sitting at his desk, Jeff stared through the transparent walls of Arizona Dome and waited. The dome's walls digitally enhanced the stark monochrome lunar view with an eden-like beauty. Trees swayed in a virtual breeze; deer grazed on virtual grass on the banks of a digital stream that cut through the barren and airless Yardin Crater.
Jeff hardly noticed. His fingers drummed a rhythm of their own on the hard teak. The call would come soon.
The chroma-grain of the desk's surface flickered into life and image of JULIE smiled up at him.
"Your uncle, Mr. Martin Andrews, is here to see you, sir," the android said, her blue eyes twinkling.
My uncle? He must have got wind of LunaDroids demise.


[This message has been edited by skadder (edited October 03, 2008).]

[This message has been edited by Kathleen Dalton Woodbury (edited October 04, 2008).]


Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TaleSpinner
Member
Member # 5638

 - posted      Profile for TaleSpinner   Email TaleSpinner         Edit/Delete Post 
Nice. I'd read on. (If you can wait a couple of weeks, please feel free to e-mail it to me.)

One nit and an aside.

Nit: I think he'd know that Martin A is his uncle, and I guess JULIE would know that too, so surely she'd just announce "Mr. Martin Andrews is here ..."? (Unless he knows two Martin Andrews's of course.)

Aside: I took "chroma-grain" as a vague play on Kodachrome, the 35mm slide film--which, too, has a "grain" because it's coated with photo-sensitive particles. There's a nice double-play on film grain and wood grain ... for those of us who can remember pre-digital imaging technology.

Hope this helps,
Pat


Posts: 1796 | Registered: Jun 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
You sayin' I'm old?

*draws Magnum and cocks it*


Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TaleSpinner
Member
Member # 5638

 - posted      Profile for TaleSpinner   Email TaleSpinner         Edit/Delete Post 
I say, steady on old chap!
Posts: 1796 | Registered: Jun 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
snapper
Member
Member # 7299

 - posted      Profile for snapper   Email snapper         Edit/Delete Post 
That's it, Skadder. Teach that whippersnapper a lesson. You better put on your bifocals so you don't miss.
Posts: 3072 | Registered: Dec 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
Magnum is a chocolate coated ice-cream over here. We don't use guns, but I could throw it. What do you think?
Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
Administrator
Member # 59

 - posted      Profile for Kathleen Dalton Woodbury   Email Kathleen Dalton Woodbury         Edit/Delete Post 
Throw it over here please, skadder.

I love Magnums.


Posts: 8826 | Registered: A Long Time Ago!  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
Here you go.

*chucks magnum*

Oh...I thought you said you were ready! Look it's not my fault if you can't catch...


Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Crystal Stevens
Member
Member # 8006

 - posted      Profile for Crystal Stevens   Email Crystal Stevens         Edit/Delete Post 
I love the 3rd person version much better than the original. When I read your original version, my eyes kind of glazed over. I found it hard to follow and understand what was happening. The 3rd person version's flow was much, much smoother .

It's just a little nit pic, but do you think it's wise to start this piece with an -ing word? I'm not the greatest critique there is, but I can't help but think this intro could be done just a hair better. JMHO

[This message has been edited by Crystal Stevens (edited October 05, 2008).]


Posts: 1320 | Registered: May 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
bluephoenix
Member
Member # 7397

 - posted      Profile for bluephoenix   Email bluephoenix         Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Adam (sorry I didn't respond sooner - I've been away for a few days).

Ha, technically I'm studying English, so I've probably set myself up for a fall by using the phrase 'in linguistic terms'. But, on the other hand, there's a lot of crossover - you can't study English without studying Linguistics to some degree.

That's my excuse, anyway .

'but since I knew what I meant it made sense to me' - a trap I often fall into myself.

As for the third person revision:
- It almost feels like you've done it just so you can legitimately include the description of the digital scenery; if Jeff 'hardly noticed it', you can't really describe it in the 1st person.
- I preferred 'My uncle wouldn’t be long; he never missed an opportunity to gloat' to 'The call would come soon'; the revision seems a bit deliberate. You could just change it to 'his' for 3rd person.
- I like the addition of 'Yardin Crater'. It gives the area a sense of 'place'.
- [just a question, this one] Has the image out of the 'window' changed? In the first version, I had visions of factual data streaming across the view - I don't know, rock densities and compositions, topographic overlays, that kind of thing. It wasn't always the idyll that's there now, was it? I can't decide which I prefer - I suppose it depends on what kind of facility the place is. If it's a residential comlpex, then the fake scenery works best; if it's a moon base or something, the technical data might be more apt.

Either way, I'd still read on, but I think I prefer the original - the revision lacks the sense of anticipation that the original had (for me, at least).

Anyway, hope this helps,
Daniel.


Posts: 153 | Registered: Dec 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
skadder
Member
Member # 6757

 - posted      Profile for skadder   Email skadder         Edit/Delete Post 
The initial image was data and highlights, but then I thought that if you were living (and working) on the moon it would be better if you saw something a little more...beautiful.

This is set at a point in time when the lunar domes are firmly established and earth is a declining place. The rich have moved to the moon, while waiting for Mars terraforming to be completed.


Posts: 2995 | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
ianknowland
New Member
Member # 8240

 - posted      Profile for ianknowland   Email ianknowland         Edit/Delete Post 
You know, that's interesting about your setting in time. I have a story where the wealthy citizens and officials of Earth settle on a new planet because of our planets social, economic, and political declination due to overpopulation. Creative minds shouldn't think alike, but I smell a conspiracy

I liked the third-person version. Streams of factual data and no scenery is boring. I want flavor because in that environment, one might expect a dry technical setting. It captures my interest simply by deviating pleasantly from something that might be expected otherwise.

Good changes all around. I agree with Bluephoenix about "The call would come soon" by keeping the original. If you say "his" call it is sort of confusing when paired with the sentence before it. Starts with "his" but refers to the MC. Doesn't work with the call.

[This message has been edited by ianknowland (edited October 06, 2008).]


Posts: 8 | Registered: Oct 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
Administrator
Member # 59

 - posted      Profile for Kathleen Dalton Woodbury   Email Kathleen Dalton Woodbury         Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you, skadder.


Posts: 8826 | Registered: A Long Time Ago!  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
annepin
Member
Member # 5952

 - posted      Profile for annepin   Email annepin         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Magnum is a chocolate coated ice-cream over here.

Which begs the question, how does one "cock" an ice-cream... whatever? Or should I ask?


I like the third person better. It has more life to it, though I can't quite pinpoint why.

Nevertheless, the opening seems a little convoluted to me. He's waiting for a phone call, but it's not his uncle's phone call--it's someone else's, right? Therefore he's taken aback by his uncle's phone call. It seemed almost like a sleight of hand trick or something. I'd like a hint of what the _other_ phone call, the one he's expecting, was about. Because then he'd have two problems on his hand, rather than just one.

quote:

My uncle? He must have got wind of LunaDroids demise.


The bit of internal dialogue was really jarring to me. I think it could just as easily be expressed in third, to a smoother effect.

The hook here is miled. I'm not entirely sure I would turn the page. A lot hinges on the LunaDroids, but I don't know enough about them, or Jeff, to really care what happens yet. So far it feels a bit generic.

Oh, and twinkling blue eyes is cliched. But maybe that's the point?

[This message has been edited by annepin (edited October 07, 2008).]

[This message has been edited by annepin (edited October 07, 2008).]


Posts: 2185 | Registered: Aug 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
kings_falcon
Member
Member # 3261

 - posted      Profile for kings_falcon   Email kings_falcon         Edit/Delete Post 
I liked the 3rd person version. My comments amount to a few nits.

I didn't have any issues with the way Julie announced the uncle's call. But then, after 10 years, our receptionist still says "It's your sister, Christine," when she calls and I only have one sister. The MC may have more than one Uncle so the name would be necessary. I also didn't mind the "blue eyes twinkling" because while it's cliche, it's something I'd expect an android to be fitted with for that very reason.

quote:
Sitting at his desk, Jeff stared through the transparent walls of Arizona Dome and waited Waited for what? . The dome's I'll assume the walls are part of the dome already walls digitally enhanced the stark monochrome lunar view with an eden-like beauty. The word order seemed strange - Why not, "the digitally enhanced walls overlayed the monochrone lunar view with an eden-like beauty"? Trees swayed in a virtual breeze; deer grazed on virtual the repetition of "virtual" is probably not necessary grass on the banks of a digital stream. IMHO this part of the sentance can be cut because I already know it's a barren, monochrome lunar view that cut through the barren and airless Yardin Crater.
Jeff hardly noticed So why is he telling me? You might consider cutting that line because the next shows me what he thinks of the landscape. . His fingers drummed a rhythm of their own on the hard teak. The call would come soon. some hint about whether this is an anticipated or dreaded call might be nice
The chroma-grain of the desk's surface flickered into life and image of JULIE smiled up at him.
"Your uncle, Mr. Martin Andrews, is here to see you, sir," the android said, her blue eyes twinkling.
My uncle? He must have got wind of LunaDroids demise so, this isn't the call he's been waiting for? Also, I'd like a hint about whether this is a good or bad call. I assume bad because of the word "demise" but I'd hope that the next line would give me some indication on which way the conversation is likely to go .


Even with the NITS, I'd read on.

[This message has been edited by kings_falcon (edited October 07, 2008).]


Posts: 1210 | Registered: Feb 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

   Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | Hatrack River Home Page

Copyright © 2008 Hatrack River Enterprises Inc. All rights reserved.
Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited.


Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classic™ 6.7.2