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Robyn_Hood
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Since mid-June I feel like have been going through a creative dry spell. I have several disjointed ideas (and no, I can't combine ANY of them ) and can't seem to form them into coherent stories.

I know this is probably normal and will eventually pass, it's just that the last time I hit spell like this it lasted for nearly ten years. Even the Flash challenges are sparking anything for me. At least twice in the last two months I've sent for the trigger only to cop-out and not write anything. The last couple of times I've actually written something, it felt like I was dredging words up from the deepest, darkest places inside and they just didn't feel right sitting on the page.

This year I would really like to try NaNoWriMo, but the only sorry little plots I can come up with will barely fill three pages let alone 200+.

Does venting help? Maybe...

Anyone else out there feel like they can't string two sentences together to save their life?

What are some things you do to beat the Desert of Doomed Plotlines?


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Anyone else out there feel like they can't string two sentences together to save their life?

Unfortunately, yes. Were it not for the challenges (Liberty Hall, Notebored), I wouldn't be getting anything done at all. I've been trying to convince myself that it will pass, that I'll get an idea that just screams to be put down on paper, but it doesn't seem to be coming. I've suffered through a couple episodes of writers block, but this is entirely new to me. It's not that I can't write, I just can't write anything I feel confident about.

Edited to say: See, I can't even put together a coherent post without editing three times. Uhg...

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JmariC
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One thing I do when I have a creativity problem (not to be confused with a lack of effort problem) is visit some visually stimulating websites. Either I find something that is slightly inspiring (which is a start) or I will eventually pick something to start a short story on (one time it lead to a bigger story which turned into the current novel WIP).
The favorite sites are:
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/elfwood.pike
(just flip through the Mod Choices, pics not stories though)
http://www.10eastern.com/foundphotos/
(random real life photos, it's just entertaining)
http://www.livejournal.com/~tumulus/
(this person takes wonderful photos)

Some back up ideas I have include trying to write a favorite song into a story, but to make sure not to directly quote the song. I haven't done this yet, but if I run dry again (or maybe for the next NaNoWriMo), I will.

ADDED: Also I get inspired, and I know this is strange, by reading through How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy and The Writer's Guide to Fantasy Literature: From Dragons Lair to Hero Quest.

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Robert Nowall
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All the time. Everytime I finish something I wonder if I'll ever come up with another idea. And even then I wonder if I'll ever write it down.

Just this year I broke a long spell by writing a page a day until I was done. I've worked through two complete stories and parts of others on that basis. I even liked one of them enough to send out to market.

(Not that I thought the ideas were brilliant, or even terribly original. But the ideas had one thing going for them: they were there, ready to start on.)


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I'm in the same boat. I keep getting initial story ideas, but when I start outlining them or thinking about them more, I can never seem to flesh out a story. My notepad is full of ideas that I have no idea what to do with.

For the last four or five weeks, I haven't done any flash challenges, and I've only written one story (in five days of at least 1000 words per day) and that was because I had to have something done for my critique group to look at.

I have been reading quite a bit though. If you find a way out, let me know, too!


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Elan
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One of the most useful questions I've learned to ask myself is: why?

Why do you think you are in a dry spell? What is pulling on your attention? Why are you fidgety with sitting down and concentrating on your writing? Specifically, do you sense any fear? Most writer's block is a result of fear of some sort.

The dry spell is a symptom, not a cause. Identifying the root cause of the dry spell is important because then you have something tangible to work with, and can go about dealing with the real issue.


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I've been having issues as well, I'm sad to say. It's why I'm so thankful for Liberty Hall and Noteboard. I'm not sure "why" it's happening, though. Life's been hard, but usually I write better when things suck. I wrote my last ms in four months during one of the most difficult times in my life. It's my escape, my link to sanity. I think maybe it has a little to do with fear. I'm terrified that I'm no good. That I'm waisting my time.

I need to pat myself on the back more, I guess. Give myself chocolate or something for each page I write...no I'd be a house...each finished work, that will do it.

I get boosts from my critiques--even the negative ones. It makes me feel like I'm improving. I see that I've come a long way. It's just daunting to see how far I still have to go.


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Beth
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When I'm in a dry spell, the first thing I do is lighten up. It's more important to me to be happy in my life than it is to write - so if the writing isn't working, I don't sit at the computer telling myself what a miserable failure I am for not being able to type anything that day.

But I like writing so I try to get back into it. Some things to try:

1. Do something else that's creative. For me, writing has a large tactile element, so creative things that use touch or movement work the best. If you're more visual you might go look at art. If you're more aural you might go listen to music. Just do something that's not writing-related.

2. Do something writing-related but do it just for fun, with no expectation. Flashes work that way sometimes. Or another trick: find a really badly-written book in a genre you don't usually read - something that's just cringingly awful - and rewrite it so that it doesn't suck so bad. Or deliberately write something awful. The idea is just to play and not worry about getting anything done.

3. Read writing books. I'm usually reading a writing book and it helps keep me motivated, somehow.

4. Take up a challenge. There's the 100 days thing - write (at least) 100 words every day for 100 days; if you miss a day, you have to start over. Nano can work. Flash challenges. A short story challenge. Sometimes all I need is an externally-applied motivation.

But - mostly, don't worry. Trust that it'll work itself out. I took nearly a year off not so long ago and overall it was a very healthy thing.


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I've also gotten a fair amount of mileage out of Julie Cameron's The Artist's Way.
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One thing you can do is get active in the critiquing aspect. I find that reading other people's work is a nice change of pace. I try to critique at least one a week.

I also like to read books about writing. I find they add a fresh perspective, and where the books overlap, I believe those nuggets are probably true.

For story ideas, you can go through OSC's 10000 ideas method (see his book Characters and Viewpoints).

Or, just go to the library with a notebook, pick up magazine after magazine and page through them. If you find a tiny spark, write it down. Keep going until you get enough and start thinking of ideas, or your pages are full, or you run out of magazines.

Coming up with ideas isn't always easy, but I came up with two decent short stories and one hugely complex milieu from my story generation exercises at bootcamp, and I still have two cards I haven't used.


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I decided to write after I read Lord of the Rings, which was right after I graduated college. When I get really stuck for ideas I re-read it, so go back to something that made you want to write to begin with.

Another option is to not write anything, or think about writing for a week or so. Read something instead, not necessarily fiction.


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I think that Beth hit the nail on the head. We're supposed to be doing his for fun. If it's become torture, stop, take a break and breathe. Writing everyday doesn't make you a great writer, just a consistant one. If we stop experiancing the joys and adventures of life how can we write about it in a way that will stir others?
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Dry spell? Lord, yes, I can relate. I'm still worrying my NANO draft to death, trying to make some sense of that rambling, caffeine-charged drivel. A few half-baked ideas have come to me off and on since, but most of them aren't enough to hang a ripping yarn on.

Oh, by the way, I'm baaaaaack! I was in lurking mode for a spell there due to other priorities.

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To follow what JmariC said about going to websites with creative art- try
renderosity.com

It's a site dedicated for the posting and viewing of 3D art- some of them being quite beautiful. Just search through the galleries- they update the galleries really often- users just submit their art- usually about 4-5 an hour. Warning- some images are sexually provocative- but you can skip those (that's what I do)


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I'm going to suggest a book...

The Writer's Mentor by Kathleen Rountree

...and an activity...

Go to the library and wander up and down the nonfiction aisles. Snatch books off the shelf at random and thumb through them. If something sounds interesting, pick it up, take it home. Doing a little research on random subjects might help you dig find something that's interesting enough to you that it gets you going again.


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I'll agree with everyone else that it might be a good idea to back off a bit for now, not force yourself to write when you don't feel that you have anything to write about.

I'll go further, though. If just taking a break from writing itself doesn't help, you might want to back off further and become involved in something that leaves you no time to write at all. Volunteer, or travel, or set out to try and win a chess title. If your creative well is empty, it might be that your life feels empty. You need to put something back in before there will be anything to take out. If you can't seem to think of anything worth writing about, go out and do something worth writing about.

And then, all you have to do is write about it.


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Thanks for all the feedback here. It halps a little to know others are hitting some of the same problems.

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One of the most useful questions I've learned to ask myself is: why?
Why do you think you are in a dry spell? What is pulling on your attention? Why are you fidgety with sitting down and concentrating on your writing? Specifically, do you sense any fear? Most writer's block is a result of fear of some sort.

The dry spell is a symptom, not a cause. Identifying the root cause of the dry spell is important because then you have something tangible to work with, and can go about dealing with the real issue.



Elan, thank you for saying that. Looking back at the timing of when these feelings started, I can see a couple of things that could definitely be causes.

I wasn't looking at the dry spell as a symptom of something else, and now that you mention it, it probably is.

Fear breeds fear. I think that might be part of the problem. Fear, anxiety and feelings of inadequacy all seem to compound.

Thanks again, everyone. There is a lot here to think about and digest.


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I'm no expert, don't have any published notches on my keyboard, so my thoughts are probably suspect.

But I think I dry spell is a perfect time to assimilate past critiques and try to implement these into revisions of an older story.

I think I might be in a dry spell, but am churning something out stuff anyway. But the problem is, it ends up as a regression in writing, and not as progress.


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I'm not necessarily in a "dry spell"; I certainly have ideas to write about and develop. The problem is that I usually don't have time, or when I DO have time, I feel like I should be doing something else (like secondaries). It's frustrating.
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When I'm stuck with an idea (I haven't had a spell where I couldn't think of an idea, yet) I talk it through with a friend. Usually just the act of telling it outloud focuses me on what I want to do with it. I notice the sections that I'm excited about, and which sections my audience of one gets excited about.

I think it probably works because it takes it one step from abstract to concrete. It also kicks in the storyteller part of the brain, which sometimes goes latent without an audience.


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Sidebar to the main discussion: if I'm working on a page, and find it slow going, I find I reach out for something nearby and handle it. If it's a book I'll leaf through it and read a little, but if it's something else I'll feel it.

To do my above-mentioned "page a day" stuff, I set up my old manual typewriter on my dining room table. (There's no room in my pigsty of an office to set up there right now.) I stroke these salt shakers and candle holders sitting on the table...I run my thumb over some stalks in a fake floral display next to it...I rub and squeeze each typewriter key.

Seems a weird habit, but it gets me through till I think of something else to type out...


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Elan
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Fear breeds fear. I think that might be part of the problem. Fear, anxiety and feelings of inadequacy all seem to compound.

Once you acknowlege your fear exists, it's easier to see it for what it is. We are all anxious about our ability to be good writers. Sometimes that anxiousness becomes paralyzation. It helps to spend a day writing, not for publication, but for fun. Pick one of your favorite topics and start writing whatever comes to your mind. Don't worry about organizing your thoughts, or making them into coherent text. The exercise is to just encourage the words to start flowing again. Make a conscious choice to give the inner-editor the day off and let yourself have a fun day, just you and the writer-self. Let me know if that helps!


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Along the lines of recognizing fear, I might add that I see this, at heart, as a spiritual issue. I love the words of Marianne Williamson, who said:
quote:
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness that frightens us.
We ask ourselves, who am I to be -
Brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be?
You are a child of God.
Your playing small doesn't serve the world.
There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people
won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to manifest the glory of God that is within us.
It's not just in some of us; It's in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other
people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically
liberates others.

--Marianne Williamson, A Return to Love (pg. 190-191)


I see the fear that becomes writer's block as being the ego afraid to step into its brilliance. Sometimes we have to just pat it on the head, acknowledge that the fear exists, and then plunge on ahead any way, and do what we love to do--write. As Marianne says, it's liberating to let the fear go.

P.S.: I might add this quote is often misattributed to Nelson Mandela. I've cited the book name and page number for those interested in looking it up.

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I haven't written anything for 9 weeks.
Work has got me down, but I have 4 weeks annual leave coming next week. Hopefully I can buckle-down.

BTW ELAN: The most terrifying thing a child can learn is that THEY are in control. That's the bit I'm struggling with in my WIP, the one I haven't written for 9 weeks. Thanks for bringing up such a painful memory. While you're at it why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice on it.


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Elan
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I've always maintained that a person never truly knows what fear is until they become a parent. And a parent never truly comprehends terror until they are dealing with teenagers.
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Jeraliey, I'm with you.

But I don't have something as important as secondaries to distract me--just an awful lot of little things (like lapdogs, yapping around my feet). <sigh!>

My hope is that I can at least squeek in a flash challenge once in a while, though I feel guilty because I've only managed one so far, and I didn't do any commenting on anyone else's stories.


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I've always maintained that a person never truly knows what fear is until they become a parent. And a parent never truly comprehends terror until they are dealing with teenagers.

Elan, I submit that it is even worse when you are a parent who writes, because part of the writing mindset is to develop the ability to think of ALL the ways things can go wrong and to imagine every last one of them in vivid detail.


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And a parent never truly comprehends terror until they are dealing with teenagers.

Or a son who tried to kill himself when he was 9. Real fear is laying awake at might thinking about what his teen years will be like.


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Well, I do know that I don't truly know what fear is. And I probably won't even after my teenaged kids are trying to kill everything else in the universe.

It's one of my major difficulties in writing anything that isn't Fantasy or SF.


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I hear ya, Mike. I had a daughter who tried to cut her wrists; thank god she used a toy swiss-army knife that couldn't cut butter. I saw that as a cry for help and put her in counseling. School is tough on teens and their emotions bounce all over like a yo-yo. By the way, my daughter is now an adult, happy, married, and about to graduate from college. But the years between then and now were terrifying ones.

When I was the mother of toddlers, I bemoaned the fact that I was worried all the time that they were going to really hurt themselves. One of my parents' friends shook his head and told me, "Oh, just wait until they are teenagers. Once they are old enough to have a driver's license, there is no end to the ways they can hurt themselves, and the damage they can do is usually a lot worse than what they can ever get into as a young child."

THAT unhinged me.

And, of course, he was right. Kids can think up ways to get into trouble that never occur to you. It never OCCURRED to me to tell my son: "Don't bring home any real hand grenades. I don't want them in the house."

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The teen years can be pretty scarey, but I'm only speaking from the experience of having been a teen.

I didn't get past the suicide issues until I came face to face with actual death. That cured me. Suicide was such a "romantic" notion, that it seemed like the perfect answer -- Boy, they'd miss me if I wasn't around...

Glad I got through it.


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My problem is that I was never a teen. So of course I never grew out of it or anything like that. When my own children get to that age, even if some of them do become teens, I won't be able to feel what a normal parent would feel.

I wouldn't really want it otherwise, but there are difficulties as well as advantages.


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OK. Back to topic.

Robyn Hood, I just started reading "Zen in the Art of Writing" by Ray Bradbury. In one essay he outlines a technique he used frequently to get his creative juices flowing.

He'd free associate titles. No story ideas behind them, just a list of nouns with 'the' in front of them. He'd go through that list and pick out something that sparked an idea, then a story would be born, often in just an hour or two. Some examples:

The Lake, The Night, the Crickets, The Ravine, The Attic, The Basement, The Trapdoor, The Baby, The Crowd, The Night Train, The Fog Horn, The Scythe, The Carnival, The Carousel, The Dwarf, The Mirror Maze.

If you're a Bradbury fan, you probably recognize most of those as short stories, or as the bases of longer works/collections.

I thought it an intriguing idea. I'm going to give it a whirl myself.


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I do like Bradbury. I might try that. Thanks.
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The last two stories I wrote were born from titles without context. So, yeah, it's probably a worthwhile experiment. I was actually reading Bradbury when I came up with them, too. Strange.
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