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Spaceman
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Aargh!

1400 words, almost two hours of work, flushed down the toilet because I copied from my flash drive to my laptop instead of the other way around.


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I feel your pain. I've lost whole chapters because I started typing them out as a reply in an email (during my group-writing days), forgetting I wasn't in WORD, and then when I didn't save them correctly, I lost them... *poof*. Not even the temp files had the draft. As a result, my motto has become: "Save. Save often. Save correctly."

Wish I could hand you a stiff drink to ease your sorrow. Just know you aren't alone.


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Spaceman
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I need to go back to changing the file name every time I write.
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Leigh
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You have my pity. 1400 words is not easy to get unless your damn breaks, crumbles and the torren is unleashed. I should really buy a flash card myself, I think work sells them for about $30 AUD each.
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Robert Nowall
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Regrets. At least in the days of typewriters (when dinosaurs like myself walked the earth), one you typed it out on paper, it was there, unchanged, unless you lost the paper. I, too, know the pain of losing one's work somewhere in cyberspace.

Right now, I store in the, I gather, now-old-fashioned media of diskettes. (I had to buy a separate drive unit for my last new computer, or lose everything I'd written on my old computer up till then.) Right now, the just over sixty thousand words of my novel fill up just over half of the diskette---but I'm afraid it'll run longer than the space available and I'll lose it all trying to transfer it to some unfamiliar new storage medium. (Once a month, or oftener if events warrant, I make a copy disk.)

At some point I'll make a printout, and then I'll have permanence...relative permanence, that is...


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oliverhouse
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I periodically email my WIP to my gmail account. It makes it easy to search, and it's an off-site backup that I don't have to worry about. I have three gmail accounts, each used to archive different types of things.

You just have to make sure you use the account often enough. About four years ago, I stopped using my Yahoo! account for the same purpose, and had to unload all of the old text I wanted before they cancelled my account.


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Sorry to hear that Spaceman. If it makes you feel any better, I think everyone has an experience where their work has been lost, sometimes even to no fault of their own. For example, the time my laptop got stolen ALONG WITH the only backups of several pieces of important data. I did get the laptop back, along with the files, but it could have been ugly and I've learned my lesson.

As far as backups, I have some experience with that, so I'll offer some friendly advice that might help everyone. It's human nature to slack off, so you have to have a good backup system that you follow religiously. Three backups for the most paranoid: one kept with the device, but separate, and two others kept off-site. Like I said, this is for the paranoid among us, like myself (probably because I deal with computer systems and critical data daily), but two would do for most everyone with only one kept off-site. What I do is keep one on a flashdrive with my Laptop, one on a CD at work, and another on a CD at home.

As a final word, I would suggest using multiple kinds of media as well, as in a flash drive and CD's, DVD's, or floppies, as even flash drives can fail, and even get corrupted as the files are copied. Also, if you're going to use floppies, make sure you replace them regularly. The magnetic material does degrade over time and with use, so if you're backing up often on the same disks, sooner or later, you're going to lose data. The better the disks, the longer they'll last, but it's like playing Russian Roulette with your data. If you have multiple current backups when one fails, it might not be so bad, but if the floppies aren't checked, and all the backups are on them, you may get a nasty surprise when you find out that none of your backups are good.

Keep writing and backup often!


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rickfisher
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I know a woman who was writing on a word-processor (she's always been out of date, and this was a few years ago anyway) that had no real memory capability of its own, but did all its saving to diskette.

She'd been mulling over a story for some time in her head, finally got it straightened out, and sat down to write about 3500 words--the whole thing--in a single sitting. At that point, before she'd saved anything, her little boy, still smarting over an undeserved (he felt) disciplinary action earlier that day, came over and pulled the plug.

She just sat there and cried. She couldn't do anything else.

I'd say it's a tribute to this woman's patience that her son is not only still alive, but has grown up into a decent person.


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I recommend you break something. Just not your computer.

Sorry, man, that really sucks.


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EricJamesStone
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Well, this post gave me the incentive to finish up a little project I've been working on.

It's a macro for Microsoft Word that creates versioned backups.

Since you can specify two backup locations, you can have one be on your local drive and the other on a network drive or flash drive. Or you could combine it with NetDrive to back up to an FTP location.

It supports three types of versioning:
1. Number: My Story Title (v.1).doc (Version numbers increase with each save.)
2. Date: My Story Title (2007-01-30).doc (Only one version per day is kept.)
3. Date/time: My Story Title (2007-01-30 12.03.17).doc (Date and time are included in the filename. The time has "." instead of ":" because of filename limitations.)

I've assigned the macro to Ctrl-S on the keyboard, so I use it instead of the normal file save.

Contact me if you're interested in getting the macro.


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undef
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I am an author, of sorts. I author source code in a variety of computer programming languages. So, from the beginning of this thread, I was thinking, "Why aren't they using source control? I certainly wouldn't use Word..."

Of course, source control is not a normal tool outside of the programming profession...

Is anyone aware of authors who use a "programming" tool like CVS or Perforce? Those tools maintain a revision history of an input file, showing at each "commit" what changed, line-by-line. The user may retrieve any version, and compare it to any other version, at any time.

Most coding tools expect plain-text (not Word) files, so that probably eliminates most literary authors out of the gate. They are easy to set up -- though again, not necessarily for those outside the computer profession...

I am happy to help someone set up a repository, or even host one free-of-charge. russ - at - undef.us if you're interested...

Russ


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Robert Nowall
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Well, practically everybody who uses a computer isn't a technical wonk who knows of better ways to do things---we've bought this PC, and it came with Works, or Word, or whatever, and that's what we use. Me, I know that if you do this, that will happen, and occasionally I stumble across something else.

Saving one's work? I picked that up as important early on, but through all the things I don't know, I still occasionally lose something.


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luapc
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That sounds like a very useful tool, Eric! I'd be interested, since I'm big on version saving with my writing, and will send you an email shortly. Thanks for the offer to share it.
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I guess I suffer from having too many versions of stuff squirreled away here and there. Not that I want anything to go poof. I just want to finish the project and get on with my illustrious career.
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Spaceman
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Just to be clear, this problem was not with backup. I have plenty of backups. In this case, I grabbed the file from my desktop computer and put it on my flash drive. I took my girls to piano lessons and wrote 1400 words on the laptop. The problem occurred when I tried to transfer the updated file back to the desktop. Instead of copying the file TO the flash drive, I copied FROM the flash drive. Sheer stupidity caused by being both tired and distracted.
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Ouch. Sorry.
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Spaceman
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Well, I managed to replace the 1400 words today. Not the same 1400, but 1400 nevertheless.
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Literary rule of thumb: the stuff you write to replace lost stuff is never as good as the lost stuff was...
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Actually (for me at least), it's usually better. Impossible to know, either way, in the case of ACTUALLY lost stuff, since you can't compare; but when I rewrite something without referring to the original, it always comes out a bit better, on average.
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Spaceman
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Yeah, more people tell me the replacement material is better. I'd still rather be 20,500 words into the novel than 19,100, but at least I got back to where I left off.
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