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poserwriter765
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I understand the importance of getting your reader hooked in the first dozen lines, but I am slightly confused about one point. Who should the star of the opening be? Does it need to be the MC? I can't really see someone else in the opening unless it is a prologue, is that accurate?

Also, can someone explain to me a little more clearly how much of the story needs to be revieled in that opening? Does the opening really even have to reveil the story at all, or is it just to get he reader attached to the charecter? Hmm, ok so every question is opening more questions for me. I got a long wat to go...


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wetwilly
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The answers to your questions are: whoever you want, maybe, could be, depends on the story, not necessrily, sometimes.

[This message has been edited by wetwilly (edited September 14, 2006).]


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Christine
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To expand on wetwilliy's very true comments...

If you don't begin with the MC, you will need to begin with someone important and have a good reason. As with any rules, it can be broken but you have to understand that until told otherwise, the first character introduced is the MC in the reader's eyes.

How much of the story should you reveal? Well, as the story isn't over yet, you should reveal what is going on at the beginning. You can't reveal the middle or the end because they haven't happened yet. You should not withhold information that the POV character knows that is true at the beginning -- although it may take some time to get around to putting it on paper.

I may have more to say later...baby is hungry.


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wetwilly
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Thanks for clarifying my vague answer, Christine. (I just realized that sounded sarcastic. It wasn't meant to be.) What can I say, I get bored at work and post vague answers to people's questions.
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I don't consider opening with the MC a hard and fast rule. Consider Enders Game - The story starts with a dialogue between Lt Graff and another Miltary office who are talking about the MC, Ender, of course. Also, a lot of action/hero/adventure movies use brief opening scenes, something that introduces an evil plot, an impending disaster, something of that nature that doesn't have the MC. On the otherhand opening with the MC can be a great tool in cultivating a strong voice that will draw the reader in more quickly. I'm thinking of the movie/book Fight Club. I love the opening of that movie where it begins with the MC having a gun shoved into his mouth by Tyler. "[with the barrel of a gun in your mouth] you can only speak in vowels." But I would just say, that it's not a good idea to postpone the MC very long. I wouldn't leave him out of a whole first chapter. I probably wouldn't even leave him/her/it out of the first few pages, unless I was really confident in my skill to rivit the reader with my writing.
Currently I'm working on a short short that starts with a quick 7 or 8 line scene of a doctor who's "2 O'Clock" appointment is a no show -- for the third week in a row. It becomes obvious that the "patient" has decided not to return to "therapy". And then I jump right into the introduction of the MC. Obviously he is the one who "should" be getting "psychiatric counseling", but isn't, for reasons the reader discovers as they read along. Anyhow, this will show up in the "fragments and feedback" forum pretty soon, so. I just wanted to share my thoughts. Back to you.

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I don't know how helpful this will be, but I can contribute 2 things and then let other, smarter people re-explain what the heck I'm talking about.

1.
In my novel, I begin with a prologue that shows the MC in a scene that is super-duper important to her life and to the entire plot of the novel. The scene must be known and understood by the reader before getting to the rest of the novel. It is years and years before the rest of the book, hence putting it in a prologue.

The problem is that the scene is hugely emotional and dramatic for the MC - too much so to be the very first thing that you encounter in her POV. You wouldn't know her or care about her enough to care or understand why this scene is important to her. Now, since prologues are "allowed" to use a different POV, voice, etc. than the text proper, I decided to show this scene from the POV of the other character present. Other than this scene, he is never a POV character again. But he is an important person to the MC, and present throughout the novel.

By making this choice, I discovered a delightful, unexpected side-effect. Now, through the entire novel, we know what that scene meant to this other character who we see but whose head we are not in, and it is vastly different than what we would think of him if we hadn't seen it from his POV. So much so, that it squarely dictated to me what the last scene of the entire novel needed to be: one small scene between him and the MC, from his POV, resolving his feelings from that prologue.

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I discovered something else the other day. I have spent 18 months and 16 drafts trying to find the opening to my novel (chapter 1, not the prologue). I finally found it last month, and began writing. Part of the problem was finding the right event and moment in the timeline of the story to start with (the moment when the MC first gets involved). I found it, and knew instinctively that I was off to the races. However, about 10 pages in I started introducing information that was central to the entire plot of the novel, but hadn't mentioned yet. I needed it to already have been introduced by the time I got 10 pages in. I realized that this information needed to be up front - in the very first scene, and in the first 13 if possible. BUT that didn't mean I hadn't started in the right place. I had. But I hadn't included the right information. (Essentially, I had the right character at the right time in the right place, but I had written her thinking about the wrong things.)

So from this I learned the important lesson that an opening must include 2 important things: it must start in the right place in the story (including the "correct" POV), and it must introduce during that scene the central meat of the story, whatever that means. Those are not necessarily the same thing.

But the biggest thing I learned from this (though it is slightly off-topic) is that there are things you have to solve in the planning stage (where to start the story) and things you won't learn until after you start writing.

[This message has been edited by sojoyful (edited September 15, 2006).]


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arriki
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my experience has been that I never really know where to begin the story until I have written at least a complete first draft. Sometimes several drafts.

I just begin and know that someone with much more insight to the story will deal with the opening -- the me who has the entire story in print in front of her.


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I have a short story that I have written 4 times, now, each with a new beginning point. The first one started too vague and too early, the second way too late, the third was maybe ten minutes too late. The fourth I am happy with where it starts, now I just need to work on the middle. But, it took seeing how the characters interact to see what the first scene should be. Initially I thought her father's relationship with her was important, but it turned out that he didn't factor in to the rest of the story at all. For the second I focused only on characters that mattered but realized that her relationship with her first husband affected everything so without seeing something of that, the reader was left confused and this was not an issue I wanted to reader confused over. The opening is a tricky place and sometimes you just got to try a whole bunch of things to get it right.
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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
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OSC discusses the different beginnings he tried when writing the first Bean book in his Writing Lessons area:

http://www.hatrack.com/writingclass/lessons/1998-10-29.shtml


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You certainly don't want your first lines to be clunkers, but be beware of the overall length and the overall build of the plot. Just get the reader to turn the page willingly. Of course you need to do that on every other page as well.

I suppose it is more critical to get the reader immediately enmeshed in shorter stories than in longer ones. Just watch out for the trap of having a "hook" that really isn't the beginning of the story. In the real world that's known as the "old bait-and-switch" and it is a sleazy sales tactic.


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wetwilly
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Yeah, you definitely don't want to write like a used-car salesman.
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