I love the books and the movies have been very well done so far. New one looks like it should be another good chapter, heres hoping.
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I have always loved gary Oldman but I agree. I'll have to see more to make a decision but just from what I know of him and what I saw in the teaser he doesn't fit my image of Sirius. But, like I said he's a great actor so maybe we're wrong. Have to wait and see.
What do you think of the new look Dumbeldor? (I nkow I speled that wrong) His voice is a bit stronger than the last but the look is still good.
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what I really thought looked awsome were the dementors at the very end. I wish i could have got a better look at Lupin standing behind Nevil. but I agree that PoA is one of the better books.
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Darn these teaser trailers... Just when I was getting over my Potter madness from book 5. It definitely appears that with the new director and a darker story line, this movie is going to be a bit more intense.
I think Dumbledore looked great, Oldman will pull it off, and those spine candles were verrrrry cool.
So now my biggest question is: How long until someone starts an " X number of days until the movie" thread...
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Boy, I need to get busy and finish reading the book with my son before the movie comes out! It will be interesting to see how Alfonso Cuarón does with the directing. Of course, Chris Columbus already set the tone.
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I agree that Columbus did a good job but it looks like, uh.. what's his name, you know the new guy, is doing a great job of following the growth of the characters and tone from book to book. As the characters get older they deal with deeper and darker material. This new film looks like it's headed that way. Just think how creapy OotP will be!!
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Yeah, this definitely seems like it will be a darker, more grown up film. I am speechlessly excited. Did you SEE the Dementor?!! *sighs* Just seven more months. I can handle it I guess.
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I have to say I loved the choir. I thought the trailer was great, but personally, did anyone notice Malfoy? he looks so much better, Colmubus made them too much of a kids movie. This new guy looks great, I love Malfoys new look. Oh and the shot of Snape standing in front of the trio gives me hope, I was affraid they wee going to make Snape all evil, now it seems like they are going to make him into kindof obsessed but not evil, yay!
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I was confused by the choir. Very confused. Was that Flitwick directing? And they were holding toads? Singing? Huh?
I liked a lot of it though. If you freeze-frame it, you can see Lupin clearly, and he doesn't look nearly as bad as other pictures have made him look. I also definitely enjoy the new costumes/looks for the characters - new robes, decent clothes, and better hair.
All I've got left is this: 203 days until POA!
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Second, I'm glad I'm not the only one to do some freeze framing to cacth things like Lupin, Hermione, and Ron.
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Did anyone think about The nightmare before Christmas listening to the music ? You know, the opening "this is Halloween, this is Halloween, pumpkins scream in the dead of night..." (I first put that just before but under a spoiler alert maybe people wouldn't have read it so... )
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quote: I thought the trailer was great, but personally, did anyone notice Malfoy? he looks so much better, Colmubus made them too much of a kids movie. This new guy looks great, I love Malfoys new look.
Did you see his giant gold pimp daddy ring? *grins*
Hope Lucius is in this one. I want more of the Hat of Evil! And of course the wonderful Hairbow of Evil!
I liked Draco's old look too. So adorable, that ickle pale face with the slicked back hair and the grumpy scowl. . *sniffs* the little spawn of pure evil is all growed up now!
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If anyone can play a basically good guy driven absolutely nuts by 14 years of wrongful imprisonment by beings that suck the happiness out of him and who can, incidentally, turn into a large black dog it's Gary Oldman.
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I concur. What the heck is up with the choir? If they sing anything, it should be the school song. And what the freaking heck is up with the freaking huge toads? freak.
Still, very cool. I have that shot of Snape and the trio on my desktop. I get to look at Alan Rickman anytime I want.
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I love what we see in this trailer. I may be reading too much into it, but already in the trailer it seems as though this film captures the feel and magic of the world without doing a literal adaptation. Like Malfoy's origami crane with a locotus charm applied to it, or the spine candles--you don't find things like that in the first two movies because they're not explicitly in the book, seems like there's more imagination in the new film, and they got to play with the possibilities of the world. Also the choir, I love that! There's no reason for a hogwarts choir in the book, but why not have them in the movie? Most all schools usually have a choir and a choir works on a visual and aural level that text can't replicate. If it's just a bit of background (which I would imagine it is), it's the equivalent of all those little touches Rowlings gives us in the books, but more vibrant because instead of being intended for text, it's intended for film. as you can tell I'm pretty excited for this film, because it looks like they are using cinematic possibilities and tools to really bring the book to life, rather than simply film the events of the book.
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Frankly, I'm a bit bored of the Harry Potter movies. While reading the book, your imagination flourishes and expands,thus making the world of Harry Potter new and original with every book. But with the movies it always seems old and recycled with the exception of new characters. I'll watch the movie no doubt but it seems a bit worn out. With a new director the movie might head in a different direction, for better or for worse.
The Lord of the Rings on the other hand seems original and fresh in each movie due to the grand scale in which the characters explore. I would have felt the same way for the Lord of the Rings if the movie in its whole remained in the Shire.
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PoA is my favorite book of all HP books. My favorite would be OoP, if it weren't for the saddening events at the end. Perhaps (Character X, for those of you who haven't read Oop) will come back from the room of shadows, or whispers, or whatever they call it. Poo. Urgghh. Rarrr!!!
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My daughter would like to know who plays the new dumbledore. Anyone know? She noticed the voice too. And she says he had real magic, because he can light candles with his hands. She's 7.
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Michael Gambon. That trailer really made me antsy - now I'll be up all night! June 4th!! June 4th!!
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Did you notice that all the Slytherins were wearing one? Apparently Cuaron wanted to create a better sense of "Slytherin Unity" or something, so they've all got rings and tie-pins.
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Actually, I think I read somewhere that it's just Draco, Crabbe, and Goyle who have the pimpness (the guy behind Draco with the glint on his right hand is one of the two). This source suspected they were gifts from Lucius Malfoy. I also read that the rings and matching tie clips are shaped like snakes.
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This movie seems like its going to be awsome. to that person who was goin on aboutthe LOTR movies being better, i am srry but personally i hate those movies, they dont have any major point behind them and is mainly a bunch of battle scenes, i have a couple friends that watch them because they are in love with the actors so i go with them but i find the movie quite boring and often fall asleep during them. So back to the PoA movie, it was my favorite book and i cant wait for the movie to come out. Patience isnt my thing...... Ahhh But i want that picture off Alan Rickman! I love the guy n his voice i got to say is the best but yeah... i alos like Dracos new look he looks alot older and more attractive in my opinion. oh well 7 more months....
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Maybe they are WWVD (What Would Voldemort do?)rings.
I'm kind of in denial about the whole "no Oliver Wood" thing. And the "no quidditch" rumor. That can't be true, can it?
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AH! SO COOL!!! I seriously can't wait to see this movie. I was disappointed by the CoS movie, but this one seems like it's going to be better. It better be.....
quote:I'm kind of in denial about the whole "no Oliver Wood" thing. And the "no quidditch" rumor. That can't be true, can it?
I really and truly hope not. It is, after all, a rather large part of the book: Harry falling off when the Dementors come and losing the match, the old broom getting destroyed, Sirius' gift of the new broom, Harry finally producing a successful Patronus only to freak out Malfoy, and finally winning the Quidditch Cup. Unfortunately, I think we're out of luck.
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I forgot to mention how jazzed I am to see the woman who played Miss Trunchbull in the Matilida movie playing Aunt Marge. I always thought the two characters were kindred spirits.
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A major reason for PoA being my favorite book is SIRIUS!! That's also the reason why OOP isn't my favorite.
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Since LotR I've been using that as a scale for comparing movies to the books they are based on. Considering this, Harry Potter has been a big time downer. As for this trailer...ummm I just don't get it. It does absolutely nothing for me. I saw the RotK trailer and I was driven mad by the fact that I had to wait another 3 months (now just one). After seeing th Harry Potter trailer I don't care if it comes out in 2003 or 3003.
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I think OSC said somewhere that even though he was leaving out parts from the EG book when writing the screenplay, the books are still there. He's just making a movie.
It makes sense. In order to appreciate a movie adaptation, you have to seperate the book and the movie. Granted, I think this only works for really good movies in which everyone involved is genuinely trying to portray the author's vision. I also think "author's vision" allows some wiggle room for artistic license. Not a lot, but a little. I think this has been best portrayed in FoTR (Porportional amount of Director's vision to Tolkien canon), and worst Portrayed with TTT (Director following his own agenda while disregarding important parts of the book), with the HP movies somewhere in the middle (Chris Columbus not adding anything of his own to HP canon).
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Tolkien is not around to praise or castigate Peter Jackson, while Chris Columbus has to be very aware of what Joanna Rowling thinks of what he does to her creation, since she could pull the plug if she wanted to. That is why Jackson has more freedom.
It seems to me that Jackson has really done a creditable job of capturing and sticking close to the essential spirit of LOtR. The changes he has made are reasonable and don't really hurt anything. Some changes have to be made when you are compressing three oversize novels into screenplays that are about the size of a novelette. In fact, having Frodo leave a short time after Bilbo left, right after Gandalf leaves to do research then returns in a panic, makes a lot more dramatic sense than the wait of nearly a century that Tolkien had in his book. It is a pity that Tom Bombadill was left out of FotR, but you have to admit that he was not really essential to the plot.
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My major problems with Jackson’s changes to the Lord of the Rings that speak to Tolkien’s moral dimension of the story.
So, for example, I don’t care that it’s Arwen that rides down to the Ford to save Frodo, but I do care that he totally rewrote Faramir’s character. Faramir is supposed to serve as a contrast to Boromir and later Denethor, as well as exhibiting the potential for greatness that the human kingdoms have continually squandered.
The fact that everyone seems to know who Aragorn is also messes with the structure of the story. And the total removal of the Rangers and the lack of mention of Aragorn’s long labors in fighting Sauron removes a lot of the nobility from his character.
Elrond’s hostility to humans was also annoying – the friendship between Aragorn’s line and the elves was deep and long-lasting (over 6000 years). While Elrond certainly blamed Isildur for not destroying the ring, he fostered Aragorn’s ancestors from the time of the fall of the Northern kingdom and blessed the marriage of his daughter to him as long as it restored the kingship.
On my merely annoying side is the use of Gimli for comic relief.
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That brings the question: What if, fifty years from now, after all seven books have been around for a good long time, and JKR has passed beyond the veil, a somewhat obscure yet talented director who had Harry Potter in his baby bottle decides to do an adaptation? He spins the story to let the audience experience the emotions he himself felt reading it his entire life. How would this compare to the effort put into it now, with Jo breathing down their necks?
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I'm also skeptical about Gary Oldman playing Sirius Black. I actually pictured him a little taller and more...well better looking than Gary Oldman.
But this being my favorite book so far I am SO excited by this trailer! The dementors better be really cool because they made that book for me. And Daniel Radcliff keeps getting cuter and cuter. I must admit that if I were 15 years old I'd also be running around trying to find obsessive Dan Radcliff sites as well lol
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