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Basicly the Klu Klux Klan, the snake worshipers who base their worship off of one verse, the people that claim that unless one is a full-fledged, baptized member of the Catholic Church, one will be damned, ect. Do I need to tell more? Posts: 61 | Registered: Jun 2004
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So, by your logic, if I write a book that includes a vision from the resurrected Jesus that people misconstrue 1500 years later and use to justify their evil actions, then I am the anti-Christ?
Abraham Lincoln referred to Harriet Beecher Stowe (author of Uncle Tom's Cabin) as the woman that started the war between the states. Does the millions of deaths that resulted from the Civil War and the eventual reconstruction, civil rights movement, Jim Crow laws, and murders by our modern sports figures make Mrs. Stowe the anti-Christ also?
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Caitlin, if you believe so strongly in not taking a section of the Bible out of context (i.e. when you criticized churches based only on Revelation), do you not believe the verse "all Scripture is God-breathed"? Would God ask Mr. Antichrist to please sign his holy book?
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Don't remember that one... Well, everyone is entitled to a mistake now and then right? But that doesn't mean I swerve in my belief that you can't base a branch of a religion off of part of a holy book!
P.S. And yes, I reilize that every holy group has their extremist coots(except for Buhdists ).
P.S.S. Isn't it weird that this has been up for one day, but has more than 55 posts? Must have hit a hot topic... Not bad for a beginner
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The problem, Caitlin, is that so far you haven’t given us an actual example of who it is you think is basing their religion solely off the book of Revelation, or why you think its author is/was the anti-Christ. You said you came to this conclusion after reading the book. How about citing some specific verses, or giving us a little of your reasoning?
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quote:Paul wrote everything from Romans to Hebrews.
Actually, there's a lot of internal evidence that Paul DIDN'T write Hebrews. I believe it's the only one of that group of letters that doesn't specifically state it's Pauline origin, plus many of the descriptions the author gives of himself don't seem to fit of what we know of Paul. The thoughts and mindset are very similar, but it probably wasn't Paul. The reason it was placed at the end of those letter was because of its disputed authorship.
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I meant off of one particular part. The bible has alot of them, but I think a religion has to encompass all of them...
Oh, and I'm at a freinds house right now(without the bible, she's an atheist[and I have no problem with that, I'm not a Jehovah's Witness]) Once I get home and look for some, I'll get back to you. I only remember parts of verses and stuff.
P.S. Taalcon, lets not argue for the sake of arguing, k?
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Mmmm.. Saint Paul... father of Christianity. He was a cool dude. Christianity never would have taken over the empire if not for him.
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Why would your being a Jehova's Witness have any particular bearing on your feelings toward athiests? We have both Witnesses and athiests who post on this board, and they like and respect one another.
Oh, as for your surprise about this thread leaping to 50+ posts in a day's time--welcome to Harack! It's a pretty fast moving board.
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quote: ...hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Revelation 2:6
Didn't Jesus teach forgivness? Is he Raphiel?
quote: Likewise you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Revelation 2:16 and 17
Did He teach that you had to convert all who did not believe?
quote: Those whom I love I rebuke... Revelation 3:19
That begs the question, then--exactly what texts were considered to be scripture when Timothy was written? Does this apply to later works of scripture as well? Does it apply to texts that were considered scripture by one sect of Christianity or another when Timothy was written, but are not included in the Bible?
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Caitlin, if you could, please cite your source--give us the chapter and verse; that way we'll be more able to evaluate your argument, and provide you with a more reasoned response.
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No one is picking on you darlin'. If anything they are respecting you by arguing your points. Just roll with it. Cheers.
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Noemon is paying you an enormous compliment, dear. He'd be the last person in the world to pick on anyone - if you have computer, you have access to the text of the Bible. Posts: 26077 | Registered: Mar 2000
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A few posts back, did someone imply that there is actually a version of the Bible that uses the word "God-breathed" in 2 Timothy 3:16? Seriously?
Hm. And here I thought that was just a silly word invented by certain modern Christian sects.
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Caitlin, I'm curious. Why do you believe what Mancow says? Do you think he is a truthful person on his radio program? Is he someone you would respect and look up to in real life? And if so, Why?
(I'm also wondering why your parents allow you to listen to him in the first place considering how vulgar he is, but that's a different subject.)
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maybe that's the wrong citation, but I have always seen that translated "inspired by God" which merely means "God-Breathed"
the thing about Catholics beating people is a little ruffling to us Catholics, so forgive us if we're edgy...
13 or no, it might be wise to apologize for said crack, especially when the board at large is being so solicitous to you, miss Caitlin.
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Especially the irony of putting it in there with the Klan. You know why there was a thriving Klan in Oregon at the beginning of the 20th Century? I'll give you a hint: there weren't a whole lot of African Americans there.
WHY do you believe him? That's the part I really want to know. Why do you think he tells the truth. What proof do you have that he is telling the truth?
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I mean why do you believe him, instead of Rush Limbaugh (who I'm sure your parents would be even more upset about you listening to if they are as you describe them) or NPR, or the former Roe and Gary show (though I can't remember what it's called now).
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Caitlin, so far you haven't posted any chapter/verse, you have implied (to put it mildly) that one of the main authors of the bible was the anti-Christ, and the only source you have given is mancow...and you can't quote him either.
We aren't using your age as a reason to pick on you....how about you stop trying to use it as a shield to hide behind.
You have also managed to imply, on a site filled with (and sponsored by) Mormons that the LDS faith is intolerant of other faiths.
I think we had been pretty tolerant, all things considered.
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Actually, this is the nicest I've ever seen the board be to someone acting as immature as you're acting right now. Posts: 4655 | Registered: Jan 2002
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Caitlin, I'm also amazed that you could possibly think Mancow is conservative considering I'd heard he'd been recently fined by the FCC and conservative groups like the one in that link hate him!
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