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Clarification: homosexuality does not equal child molester. Kinsey said that homosexuality was normal, as in common. Kinsey did not say that child molestation was common or normal. Kinsey never engaged in or encouraged child molestation.
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Who said homosexual equals child molester? If that was later on my link, I apologize for that. If it is true that Kinsey only got the data on pedophilia from convicts, I guess he might have outlined it as criminal behavior in his report. If he wanted to be sure that it was clear that he didn't condone that behavior. But my impression of him is that he was just reporting, not judging. My position is simply that objectivity can go too far.
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Okay, forget it. Obviously, no one is going to admit that what was just recently being asserted was that Kinsey stated child molestation was both common and okay, even though there is no factual data showing it.
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You can quote me if you like. Or are you actually new to the board? If so welcome to Hatrack. I said I was not okay with Kinsey saying sexual stimulation of infants was part of human sexual behavior in a value-neutral context. "common" and "okay" both got added in by others.
I realize the chart was not about child molestation but about orgasm in children. He felt felons were an appropriate source for this information. I think he was a both unethical and immoral.
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If it is impossible to collect good data, its better to collect what bad data one can and hope something will still be relevant in the analysis.
Kinsey was creating the modern study of sexuality. He had to deal with situations that prevented him (in many cases rightly) from collecting good data. He settled for collecting all the data he could get, good and bad, and catalogued it all extensively for people to look at in raw form all they wanted. Yes, he tried to draw conclusions, many wrong, from it as well, but we still consider (for instance), Plato and Aristotle geniuses despite the relative ease with which we know holes can be poked in many of their arguments, even by simple observation.
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Um, Kinsey was trying to be detached and objective in gathering, as scientists are wont to do. If he was studying apes doing those things, it would not seem so contraversial.
Kinsey: hardworking scientific pioneer or sex-obsessed deviant? Meh. I'd say both, depending on what part of his life you happen to focus on. I really don't see the contoversy here.
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