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Then I will take it all back. No more blessings for you.
There's probably a rule somewhere or else a President could just "pretend" to be VP and really have all the power, this being in power for 16 years.
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As I understand it, Noemon is wrong. A president cannot campaign for a third term, but could serve as vice president and become president if the president died.
If this sounds weird, imagine it in reverse: someone is on their second year of the vice-presidency when the president dies. They become president. They then win the next election. Are they only entitled to six years of presidency, or can they run for re-election -- for ten years of presidency?
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quote: No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
So Tom's theoretical VP *could* serve for 10 years, but not 11.
And it just says that you can't be elected President. I'll bet he could be elected VP.
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Don't we need a more varied gene pool in the White House? Otherwise the cabinet might turn out a little "strange."
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Well, with any luck they don't share any more genes that would, say, Clinton and whoever else she might choose as her running mate.
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quote:After all, you can't trust the ignorant masses to indoctrinat^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H raise their kids like they "should" be raised.
In many (most?) cases, I actually think that's true. Most children are indoctrinated by their parents, and it's a shame. But it's a conundrum for me, because I don't think we can trust the government either.
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He would only be allowed to run for his second term if he served one day less than half of the previous president's term as president. So technically no one could be president for ten years, but they could be president for nine years and 364 days.
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OK, here's the plan: Run Bill Clinton as VP to a candidate who's dying of cancer! Then 3 months after the election when the new "President" croaks, Bill takes the reins once more.
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Someone mentioned supportive and submissive to husband together as if they only exist side by side. I think that is a little insulting to every supportive wife out there. The best marriages are equal partnerships, with supportiveness of both spouses for the other, and no true submissiveness.
I don't think Hillary Clinton is some awful person, but I also got irritated with "right wing conspiracy" remarks, and dislike her interpretation of "it takes a village" (I believe that is true, but I have my own interpretation).
I think the reason we doubt the sincerety of Hillary staying with Bill is because we so rarely see them along side each other now that Bill is no longer president. I think she has never really felt that sincere to a lot of people, and that is what grates on the public. So they doubt her sincerity in everything, including her marriage and even her motherhood.
To back this up, most women who stayed with a man as unfaithful as Bill has been are considered to have low self esteem, or are staying out of fear (social, physical, emotional, etc). They are considered weak to put up with such jerks of men. One affair, okay... but a pattern of adultry? We women who see other women do that feel pity for them, and sometimes exasperation: "You're a WOMAN, you don't have to put up with that." But there is one other reason a woman might stay with such a man and that is because she has something to gain. We see women who do that as conniving and manipulative. Hillary is neither weak, nor has she ever been perceived with pity. So to our minds, there really can be only one reason for her to stay with someone that is so obviously untrue to their marriage: she has something to gain.
I think Martha Stewart grates on the public in the same way. So many Good Things, but would we really feel comfortable in her home? Poor thing didn't have as many connections as Hillary, and so she was found guilty while Hillary was not.
That Hillary never lived in New York before she decided to be a senator bothers me as well. This adds another point against sincerity. The Whitewater scandal also grates against me. This subtracts a point from integrity.
These are the reasons people don't like Hillary very much.
I think she see things that are wrong, and she wants to correct them. That is originally why she wanted power. That is a point in her favor. I think she has let go of what is important in the small circle(marriage) for what is important in the larger circle(society). That happens sometimes, many times with our leaders. So I won't hold that against her. But I think our best leaders are able to make the small circle as well as the large circle succeed.
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quote:Someone mentioned supportive and submissive to husband together as if they only exist side by side. I think that is a little insulting to every supportive wife out there. The best marriages are equal partnerships, with supportiveness of both spouses for the other, and no true submissiveness.
Thank you for pointing that out Amka, it bothered me too.
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quote:I ain't havin' no WOMAN in charge a this here fine country!
Every man born equal! Every woman born... in the kitchen!
Jebus - I don't think you will have any trouble with her being in charge of YOUR fine country -- since I haven't heard of any plans of her becoming a British citizen anytime soon....
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That and there has been Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Victoria, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher...
I think the only woman in the United States that currently has the experience needed in my opinion to be president in House minority leader Nancy Pelosi and she is way, way too liberal for my tastes.
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Do you mean you voted against W the first time around, nfl? Because he certainly had far less experience than most of the decent number of women governors that exist now and have been around in the past, and you just said you didn't think any of them had the experience to be president.
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I'll admit that was a mistake. But as of now there are no female governors in the national spotlight which is necessary to make a presidential run. Its certainly possible a female governor could establish herself in the primaries, but as of now in my opinion Pelosi is the only woman in the country with the experience and recognition to make a run and I don't agree with her politics. I would also argue that Edwards being a freshman senator was equally unqualified. As to whom I would vote for based on experience, it should also be noted that one often finds him or herself voting as much against a canidate as voting for one.
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What about Granholm. I don't think she was born here, but Arnold may take care of that for her. Janet Napolitano, and I know some people really like Kathleen Sebelius.
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On a side bar, I've had a lot of people mention the fact that Hillary Clinton will be running for President in 08.
And all of them have been Republicans.
It seems to be a Rove Republican Plan, to get someone who is so controversial as the nominee-presumptive.
This can help instil fear into their base--stay with us or next time this liberal wild woman will be in charge.
And if done subtley enough, it might convince enough Democrats that she is the natural choice to run. She has too much baggage--too easy to take pot shots at--to win a presidential election. This is just what Mr. Rove would love.
Or I could be just paranoid, but after he admitted the whole "Gay Marriage Ballots" were simply to draw conservatives to the voter booths, I won't put much past the man.
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All these women have more than sufficient experience and name recognition to be elected President, except they're women.
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I can't get a read on her. I know she is a moderate, but apparently she was running against a mean person.
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