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twinky
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The formal definition of a unit is worthless to an engineer. It doesn't have any particular bearing on real life. As such my understanding of it is not intuitive.

I could try, but not on a Friday afternoon. [Smile]

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I like to think that this was pretty good. [Smile]

Hobbes [Smile]

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For any limit, there's two numbers. There's the number we're approaching the function of, and the number we're approaching after we take the function. A limit exists when as we approach the function of a particular number, we can come arbitrarily close to another number (as the value of the function).

So for instance, the limit of x^2 as we approach 2 is 4, because as we approach the function (x^2) of a number (2), we're approaching the number 4, and we can get as arbitrarily close to 4 as we want by getting closer and closer to 2.

We're also getting closer and closer to 5 as we approach the function (x^2) of 2 (well, if we only approach from the lower end of the number scale, which is a specific sort of limit), but we can't get arbitrarily close to it. We'll always be at least 1 away.

Limits are pretty easy to show somebody specific examples of, but hard to explain generally.

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quote:
Limits are pretty easy to show somebody specific examples of, but hard to explain generally.
*agrees*
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The thing that may be tripping you up in my bathtub example is that I don't offer a formula for calculating the volume in the tub at any given time. Unless you want to do some calculus (and I don't think you do ) there is no way for you to determine what the volume of water in the tub is at an arbitrary time.
It would help if I could actually remember enough calculus... [Razz]

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If I had made this thread, I'd have called it:

"An explanation of a concept integral to my existence: the derivative"

Very cute, Bok. [Smile]

I'll bet rivka has some good sources to explain limits.

[ April 10, 2005, 01:09 AM: Message edited by: Ela ]

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Uh, not really. I kinda hate calculus . . . ok, not all of it. Mostly integration.

And everything that was on the actuary test. >_<

But let me see what I can find.

[ April 10, 2005, 01:05 AM: Message edited by: rivka ]

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This page is cute.

. . . and that was the only site I found that actually seemed aimed at teaching the concept of limits to non-math people. Found quite a few that want to sell books that would do so. [Razz]

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Oooooo, that's a good way of doing it!
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