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Jonathan K.
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What quallifies a rebellion as being justified?
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ElJay
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You win and write the history books.
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Jonathan K.
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So all rebelions would have to be un-justified until 50 years after they happened
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I think my thoughts were similar to Jay's. It depends on how successful you are.
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Teshi
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I don't think it's entirely dependant on how successful you are. There's got to be another element.
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Success is important, but no I don't think that's all there is to it. Factors might include methods used to rebel and what efforts have already been made to solve the problem prior to the rebellion.
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Teshi
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How about the problem is part of it too? or is that understood?
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Jonathan K.
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You can justify any rebellion by quoting socrates :"I am the gadfly, on the ass of that great dilatory steed, society" socrates said, at his trial, that he was a the gadfly, or horse fly, that irritates society, that "great dilatory steed(lazy horse) into movement) meaning without being argumentative, or even rebellious, towards a society, it will not move, it will stagnate, and a stagnant society is one that sinks into entropy therefore, any rebellion that avoids stagnation can be said to be justified
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Jonathan K.
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Really, since justification lies in the eyes of the beholder, all rebellions are justified
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(I was kinda kidding. . . and kinda saying I think it's such a messy matter that there is no easy answer.)
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People don't rebel at the drop of a hat, they do it when they have been harassed and abused and have no other choice.

So, when the people are forced to rebel, that's when a rebellion qualifies as justified.
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Shogun: Loyalty is the prime virtue.
Pilot: Yes.
Shogun: Is rebellion ever a virtue?
Pilot: Yes.
Shogun: When?
Pilot: When it succeeds.
Shogun: Yes.

A paraphrase from James Micheners "Shogun"
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Remember remember the fifth of November.
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Not every rebellion is justified. There have been plenty of rebellions that weren't about social justice, even if the people involved wouldn't agree with that statement...

[Wink]
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According to Locke's second 2nd treatise, the people have a DUTY to rebel when the current government isn't serving the people. It’s the entire idea that you have to sacrifice some of your freedoms in order to better safeguard your inalienable rights to life liberty and property. That's the purpose of government, and when it's not serving that purpose, then a rebellion is justified.
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