I feel rather odd. I've been here since September, and I'd lurked for a couple months before that. Now I'm hitting 1000 posts (not including things posted under the names Clitic, Snarky, Captain Obvious, Freakishly Strong Boy, or Freakishly Jon Boy), but I still kind of feel like a newbie. Well, maybe not really a newbie, but not quite like a full-fledged jatraquero. I don't remember the exact progression of ranks according to Papa Moose.
I think my problem is that I have a hard time feeling like I fit in. In late elementary school and junior high, I was teased mercilessly because I was short and smart. I became very quiet and introverted, though I did have a few very good friends. But I was always on the outside of the "cool" groups after that. Now, whenever I become a new member of a group--new job, new apartment, whatever--I don't immediately integrate into the group. I sit back for a while, feeling everything out until I figure out precisely who everyone is and how I fit in with them.
Now, I'm sure plenty of people are going to jump up and say, "Wait, Jon Boy! You do fit in!" I'm not saying that I don't. I'm saying that I often feel like I'm sitting on the sidelines observing everyone else and occasionally speaking up. It's not a bad place to be. You get to do lots of observation and introspection.
I'm sure I probably sound whiny right now, but that's not how I feel. I love being a part of this community, and I feel like I've been a part of some really good discussions.
I realize that landmark posts are usually used to tell about oneself, but I already did that at 500, so I'm not sure what else to say about me. If there's anything that anyone wants to know about me, feel free to ask.
It's a pretty good bet that Jesus had a beard and long hair and probably he and all the disciples reeked given that they owned very few changes of clothing and worked around fish and walked through the desert and stuff. And they lived in populated towns before the advent of sanitation.
So I guess the normal men's dorm anywhere else in the US is closer to his example than the dorms at BYU.
Oh, and the reason you still feel like a newbie is because 1000 posts ain't nothin! Noob!
<insert tongue-in-cheek smilie here>
SO anyway, congratulations on the thousandth post and, by the way, congratulations for fitting in at BYU a lot better than I ever would.
Have I ever explained the advantages of furniture made from discarded pizza boxes???
I really don't understand the beard thing, to be honest. I remember a story in the Old Testament where the Egyptians took some Hebrew diplomats and shaved them to show their disdain for the Hebrews. It was quite insulting, apparently. And many of the early leaders of the LDS Church had beards. But it doesn't bother me to be clean-shaven, especially since I can't grow anything besides stubble, and even that is itchy and uncomfortable.
So what are the advantages fo furniture made from discarded pizza boxes? Living in a furnished apartment, I don't really see the need for such furniture, but I'm interested to hear about it.
So you don't agree with the Real Face of Jesus picture from December's Popular Mechanics?
The beard is required by the Law of Moses. The hair. . . I don't know. I somehow doubt that Paul would have been so disparaging of long hair on a man if Jesus had had it. Of course, Paul was a Roman, and they tended toward short hair and being clean shaven. . . .
If it makes you feel any better, when I started posting here, and I started reading some of your posts, I thought you sounded like you were one of the ones that had been here forever. (I actually came about a month before you, not counting some lurking around April.)
You know, Jon, I only recently (meaning, literally, about a month ago) started feeling like I really fit in here, and I've been here for more than two years. I also have never been in the "cool" groups at school, and I really never felt like I fit in anywhere, so I guess I was just insecure because I wasn't used to being part of a community where I was actually accepted.
So my advice to you is just hang in there. One of these days you'll start feeling like a full-fledged jatraquero. I did.
quote:Now, I'm sure plenty of people are going to jump up and say, "Wait, Jon Boy! You do fit in!" I'm not saying that I don't. I'm saying that I often feel like I'm sitting on the sidelines observing everyone else and occasionally speaking up. It's not a bad place to be. You get to do lots of observation and introspection.
How to rephrase without sounding like I'm whining? It's not that I feel like I don't fit in; it's more like I still feel like I'm getting to know everyone. In real life, it's a lot easier to gauge people's reaction to you, because you can hear their tone of voice and see their body language and expressions. On the message board, sometimes my sarcasm sounds serious, and sometimes my self-defense or idle introspection sounds whiny.
But I do feel like I've got my own niche. I never thought I'd see the day when I became the head grammar nazi, though. I'm very touched and honored. Thank, you, Icarus. You don't know how much this means to me.
I'm having a really hard time remembering what the Sharkey thread was. I'm not sure if I should ask to be reminded, but I'm going to anyway. What was the Sharkey thread all about? Can you dredge up the link?
In high school, I was kind of on the outskirts of the cool groups. I didn't quite feel like I was one of them. In retrospect, I realized that I fit in just fine and the only thing holding me back was me. I just have a hard time stepping out of my comfort zone and fighting my insecurities. But you guys have shown me that I shouldn't worry so much.
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Paul: Roman citizen. Jew. Pilate: Roman citizen. Roman.
It seems to me that everyone secretly feels like they don't fit in to some extent, and that they will never quite attain that level of coolness exuded by some other jatraquero. In some cases this may be true , but most of the time there are people around thinking you're cool without your knowledge. There are of course people who tend toward over-confidence in their own spiffiness, and others who feel themselves fully cognizant of every possible nuance of forum activity and history after only a few months, or even a week or two *twitch* - there used to be a lot more of them, but they've met unfortunate ends...
Jon Boy - It takes everyone time to find a niche. Post counts are just numbers. Often they reflect the amount of time someone has been around, but equally often it's just the number. Don't feel bad about not finding a 'niche' immediately. It took me a bit.
Eventually, I just assigned myself a niche. I decided to tell everyone I was uber cool and that Hatrack couldn't possible survive without me. People pretend to buy into it because Hatrackers are nice and they want you to succeed. Sort of like self-appointed, altruistic suckers who are being suckers for good.
Your next thread should be, "Look How Amazingly I Fit in After Only 1,206 Posts!" and spend the next 206 posts talking about how sassy you are. Heck, I'd buy it.
edit: For clarification. (Didn't mean you were "just a number," Jon boy.)
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I'd just like to tell you that the instant you registered Clitic, you won a spot in my heart forever. I knew you were cool before that, but only excessively cool people have dirty-sounding linguistics alter-egos.
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Ralphie--That sounds like a plan for success if I've ever heard one. It seems I've seized control of the linguistic Reichstag, so to speak. I will now unleash a reign of terror upon all linguistically inferior hatrackers.
Icarus--Thanks. That was very validating.
Ophelia--Thank you. I'm very flattered. Anyone who appreciates that has to be cool, too.
I have to admit that amidst the outpouring of love and affection, I've grown somewhat embarrassed by the title and first post on this thread. They really only reflect the quiet, insecure, introverted part of me, which is far from being the entire me.
Oh well. I guess I'll just sit back and let people tell me how much they love me.
Kayla, you constantly bumping Jon Boy's remarkle number of landmark posts is making me feel much better for the semi-ScottR-poetry-stalker I felt like I was turning into. I'm not alone! Thanks!
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