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fugu13
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It was high up people in Cheney's office, and they're specifically revealing their names to pressure them into implicating any higher-ups who might have been involved. I have my suspicions as to who ordered it.

http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/02/17/National/Cheneys.Staff.Focus.Of.Probe-598606.shtml

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Nothing will happen. All the right people will have deniability and some minor functionaries will take the hit and will be shuffled off to work for lobbying firms.

I'm still waiting to see what turns up with the Democrat's files being fingered.

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Lalo
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Nothing will happen. This is the Republican party we're talking about -- only Democrats get screwed for being corrupt.
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I remember this happening.

Hey, what happened to the "national security" that Republicans like to scream at everyone else?

Though, unfortunately, I have to agree with Lalo.

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Right, Lalo. Nixon resigned just for kicks.
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Shigosei
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Having made that snarky post, I will concede that the Bush administration seems to get away with an awful lot. We'll see if the American people will stand for that in November. If what my history teacher told me is true, he'll probably be re-elected because the economy is recovering. Whoever wins, I sure hope he forces Congress to be a tad more responsible with our money. And it would be nice if the administration stops blowing CIA agents' cover.
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TomDavidson
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And while we're at it, Shig, I'd like a pony.
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quote:
This is the Republican party we're talking about -- only Democrats get screwed for being corrupt.
What color is the sky in your world?
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Dag, you have to concede that Republicans at the national level get away with a LOT more crap -- like, say, trading arms for hostages and exposing CIA operatives -- than, say, Clinton did. I mean, we're talking about a man whose ill-timed haircut made national news for a month; if Bush were to shut down an airport for a haircut, we'd have Republicans out there arguing that it was necessary for national security and a brave, forward-thinking move that yet again demonstrates how independent he is of the polls. [Smile]
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Scott R
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I hope that whoever was truly responsible for the leak is found and prosecuted.
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You think they got "away with" trading arms for hostages?

And the CIA thing is still being investigated. Sheesh.

Focusing on the haircut thing, which is irrelevant to "corruption" and only involved public outcry, not criminal investigation, is a cheap rhetorical trick.

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Scott R
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Well, the Kennedy's allegedly have gotten away with murder before, Tom. . . and some would point out that Clinton has as well.
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Well, considering reagan was never impeached, I'd say "yes"
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The Democrats had control of both houses of Congress - they could and would have impeached if they thought they had a chance to win.

But that inconvenient thing called "evidence" probably just kept getting in their way...

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Lalo
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Yes. If only Bush wasn't insistent on blocking investigation into September 11...

Though I'm sure he has nothing to hide. I'm sure it's just a matter of national security?

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Did you miss the headlines about his expanding the investigation, Lalo?
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Lalo
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I may have, admittedly. Last I heard -- though this was several months ago at the earliest -- he was intent on keeping Congress from having their own investigation into the matter. While I'm sure he's going to lose the fight, or maybe already has, the fact remains that Bush didn't want Congress to investigate September 11. Why not?
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Dagonee
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Don't know. Maybe national security, maybe fear of being embarassed for another intelligence screw up. Probably some of each, with the first being made more important due to the second.

But that's a far cry from saying Republicans are never screwed for being corrupt.

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Lalo
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Oh, you're absolutely right, Dagonee. Like when the White House leaked that Wilson's wife was a CIA agent to punish Ambassador Wilson for exposing one of the administration's lies -- the Republicans certainly got screwed on that one, ha ha! I loved watching Karl Rove led away with handcuffs on.

...wait, did that actually happen?

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With the media fragmenting into biased spheres of influence, its hard to imagine any group getting away with anything major. Perhaps one sphere of listeners/viewers/readers doesn't pay attention to the other sphere, but its out there.
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Lalo
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And don't even make me say "Halliburton."
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fugu13
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Extending a deadline under political pressure in an election year isn't quite the same as expanding. Particularly when one is still refusing to cough up documents.
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So, um, when were the Republicans last screwed for being corrupt?
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quote:
So, um, when were the Republicans last screwed for being corrupt?

On the national level, about 30 years ago. Watergate. Nixon resigns. Senior staff doing prison time. Fond memories... [Smile]

On the state level, here in Illinois, it's going on right now. The ex-governor was just indicted on multiple serious counts, following a federal investigation that revealed incredible (even for Illinois) levels of corruption.

The Daley administration (Democrat) in Chicago seems a little better insulated, with staffers willing to fall on their swords when stuff hits the fan, but there's some federal investigation going on there, too.

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Since it seems necessary to repeat it Lalo:

"And the CIA thing is still being investigated. Sheesh."

And where is there any proof Karl Rove had anything to do with that?

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You forget who you're talking to, Dagonee. For Lalo, politics are a matter of faith [Smile]
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