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Javert
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OK, so this a question that has been bugging me all evening, and I want more opinions...

...If cavemen and astronauts got into a fight, who would win?

Discuss. [Big Grin]

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Caveman gets a club, right?

what does the astronaut get? his helmet? funny pants?

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Javert
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No weapons. We're talking strictly hand to hand combat here.
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Well, if the astronaut doesn't get his helmet, there's no way he can win. Cavemen had thicker skulls and heavier bones. I vote to let the astronaut keep his helmet.
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I vote cavemen because ... they're just tougher, is all.

Edited so as not to spoil the surprise.

[ February 26, 2004, 12:12 AM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

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Javert
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Shhhhhh! No one else knows where I stole this one.
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Cavemen would kick. Heck, even cavewomen would kick their little tin plated hineys.
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cavemen win.

::sniff::

Ni!

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Javert
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Oh, my bad. Should I have said "cavepeople"?
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Would they be fighting in outer space? Because I think astronauts would have a definate advantage there, what with having oxygen and their brainpan intact.
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Javert
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No, no, not in space. Just an empty field, or a parking lot. Which would win out, the intelligence of the astronauts or the instinct of the cavemen?
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Depends on what the fight was about. If it was a fight about or over women, caveman would win. If it was a fight about mathematics, astronaut would win.
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No weapons, no tricks. Skill against skill alone.

Cavemen still win.

Ni!

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I don't know about NASA, but I know Starfleet trains all their cadets with ass-kicking martial arts moves.

OK, I don't know why these moves always involves interlocking hands, but they seem to work against the Klingons (at least when Kirk did it). Come on, cavemen are not as tough as Klingons. [Big Grin]

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What about cavemen raised by caveklingons?
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Sachiko
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Raised? For food?
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Beren One Hand
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Silly Billy... Caveklingons will not raise cavemen, they eat them!

*clubs Sachiko for beating me to the punch* [Smile]

[ February 26, 2004, 02:20 AM: Message edited by: Beren One Hand ]

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Sachiko
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*wiggles in delight*
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Beren One Hand
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I'm not beating you with one of those sissy cavemen clubs. I'm using the caveklingon clubs, complete with nine inch long Targ teeth spikes. Bow down human!
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Sachiko
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Who're you calling human?!?
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Beren One Hand
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Pipe down hew-mon or I will start singing Klingon operas.
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Sachiko
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I thought it had to be bare-handed combat.

Or is the Caveklingon vs. Sachiko a different fight altogether?

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Sachiko
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Hehehehee...I keep giggling over seeing Data do lines...

Wouldn't that be hard in that time? Would you have to replicate hundred-dollar bills?

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Beren One Hand
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They don't call him powder because of his complexion. [Wink]
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Sachiko
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[ROFL]
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Sachiko
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I've been meaning to ask you, Beren...

why "One-hand"?

(edited for silliness)

[ February 26, 2004, 03:01 AM: Message edited by: Sachiko ]

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Why are they fighting?

I mean, did the caveman sleep with the astronaut's wife?

Did the astronaut land his ship on the caveman's favorite spear?

Motive and adrenaline are huge factors. If both the caveman and astronaut are angry or if only the caveman is, I think the caveman has the edge.

While both are in good physical health, a caveman's lifestyle forces him to have superior strength. I mean, yeah, it's great if you can run down a deer, but if you can't drag it back to the cave, the wife's gonna have your head.

"What, you want me to makea the veggie lasagna again? Issa the third night in a row! *hits cavehusband with stone rolling pin* You get back out there and bringa me the deer!"

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Beren One Hand
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Because one hand is always occupied by manual spawning.

Ewwwwwww... I know, I disgust myself too. [Smile]

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Well, assuming that the caveman we are talking about is genetically identical to modern man, then I think I'd have to put my money on the astronaut because huge advances in nutrition would likely make him much taller and healthier than his prehistoric counterpart.
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Anna
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I agree with Chaeron. The astronaut would be bigger, healthier, stronger, and well trained by the NASA [Big Grin]
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Well trained to sit in a spinning chair without vomiting, maybe. But not trained to kill a man with his bare hands.

Please, you "astronaut will win" people are crazy.

Even an extra foot of height wouldn't provide enough reach to make a match for the caveman's superior strength or his street smarts.

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Of course, I think the question on everyone's mind is who would win in a fight between Valentina Tereshkova and Lucy.
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cavesmen/person wins [Wink]
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Astronaut wins.
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Considering most US astronauts and all Russian cosmonauts are also members of the Armed Forces, chances are they have a fair amount of hand-to-hand combat training.

Of course, the caveman will be all dirty and greasy (and B.O. can be a powerful weapon sometimes), plus have long fingernails and toenails. They'd probably be more willing to bite their opponent too, but how bad that is depends on how many teeth the caveman's still got.

Tough one, I'm gonna lay a fiver on the Astronaut.

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What a silly question. Everyone knows that cavemen and astronauts wouldn't fight; they'd team up and fight crime together!
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Tom [ROFL]
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Tom, would that make them Astro-lopithecus?
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"I'm Astro Man. I've come to save this city with my shiny space suit, doctorate in physics and dedication to the future! New Andertal has... Oh my Lord, what is that thing he has there?!?! Put that down! No, put it down! No! Don't Eat It! Sheesh, fellas can I get back to you on this press release, I've gotta take New Andertal to the Vet, be right back."
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I'm convinced an astronaut would win because of superior nutrition, conditioning, knowledge of gravity and inertia, etc...

He could also use his more highly developed sense of irony to disparrage the caveman and break his spirits.

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quote:
Shhhhhh! No one else knows where I stole this one.
Not quite true. I'll bet CT does, too. [Wink]

But I have a question:

What kind of caveman we talking here?

Neanderthal? Evidence indicates they were a lot stronger than us physically. One good punch or kick would probably smash spaceman's calcium-leached bones into so many fine splinters.

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I think that the astronauts would "amaze" the cavemen with scientific wonders, and the cavemen would worship them as gods.

Damn you drake, you beat me to it, so i removed it.

[ February 26, 2004, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: MEC ]

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sndrake
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He MEC, it's more fun to let people wonder where this got stolen from. Makes us part of a cool inner circle. [Cool]
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Dagonee
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Yeah, but I was first to know. So I get two: [Cool] [Cool]
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sndrake
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OK, Dag. You get points for being the first person to say something about where it was stolen from. [Big Grin]

But I want everyone to acknowledge that until now no one has addressed the deleterious effects of zero-grav on bone density and what it could mean in a fight between a caveman and a spaceman. [Razz]

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But the astronauts have the chance to get hit by cosmic rays and get super powers - does that offset the low-gravity effect on bone mass?

I'd bet the Thing's bones are pretty dense.

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Cosmic rays and super powers? [Roll Eyes]

And here I thought we were trying to have a serious discussion... [Big Grin]

Edited to add: The Thing doesn't have any bones! And it's not a space man or a space woman. Doesn't count at all. [Taunt]

[ February 26, 2004, 01:14 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]

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Edited to save sndrake's embarrassment. [Taunt]

[ February 26, 2004, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Dagonee ]

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Thanks, Dag - while you were typing I figured that out and deleted the remark you were replying to. I'm going real short on sleep today. So debates like this are about all I can handle. Mostly. [Smile]
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sndrake, ohhhhh yeah. I'm wearing the cool cap too. [Cool]

My vote? Caveman, due to superior skill at working the terrain. He'd be all, "Ooh, a swing and a miss for the rookie."

So, your brain isn't really functioning on the higher levels, eh? It's pretty much a fire bad, tree pretty, kinda day, I guess. [Big Grin]

[ February 26, 2004, 01:26 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]

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