I don't know what to tell you Jamie. I'm sorry that you're going through this. I'm not sure what to do next.
In the long run I think that you'll probably be happier for not being there, but I wish that you'd been able to leave on your own terms.
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Yeah, that does sound like a good idea, unfortunately. All of Jenny's advice is, as usual, quite good.
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I'm trying to figure out if I'm even eligible for COBRA. Apparently you don't qualify if you are terminated for "gross misconduct."
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Can't the fmla be turned in retroactively? I would think so, they've been contacted all week by him.
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If it's not being too forward, may I ask why you 5 days without notifying your supervisor? If that's none of my business, just tell me to butt out!
Edit: I'm so insensitive! I'm sorry that you lost your job. I hope things work out though. I don't know all your circumstances so I'm not quite sure what kind of luck to wish you...
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She WAS notified. By myself Thursday prior to last week, and by my psychiatrist three days last week.
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Oh! Then, that DOES suck. I'd be pissed off. They gave you no notice...nothing? At least they're giving you 4-weeks pay. But if you don't resign, this termination could follow you to your next job, huh? Oh, man. I'm sorry.
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Just saw your last post. You definitely don't need to stand for this if they were notified.
By the way, resignations in repsonse to firing, don't protect you from adverse consideration later. Most job applications ask, "Have you ever been fired, or resigned to avoid being fired." So the resignation's not an appealing option anyway.
Is this a public agency? How long have you worked there? You may be entitled to a hearing.
Is there anyone who can vouch for you that you did give notice? If it ever comes up in an interview, you'll have something explaining your side of the story and showing what buttheads they were.
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I'm so sorry that this has happened! If it helps, try to remember that it WILL work out for the best. My husband lost his job without warning last year after breaking his back and giving his all. It was really terrible, b/c he and the owner of the company had been friends. However, about 2 weeks later he realized that he had been treated badly for a long time, and that since he never would have left the job voluntarily, it was actually great that he got fired. I know that sounds funny, but we still truly feel that him losing his job was the best things that could have happened, otherwise he'd still be working there and being mistreated. Chin up, and remember you have lots of support around here.
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Well, I don't know about the details of your situation enough that I could make a guess about how any legal action might turn out, but I think you might as well start looking ahead. You probably don't want to work at someplace with executives who treat you like that anyway. You are smart and you know what you want, so I'm sure you won't have a problem getting there. At the very least maybe this can motivate you to get going on getting into grad school, or perhaps finding a job where they will treat you better.
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For some reason my computer isn't showing the text of the letter. But I gather that your supervisor is now saying you didn't tell her you were going on vacation, and that they contacted your doctor over whether you were sick the friday before your vacation began. I'm sorry they are doing this to you.
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Right - at this point you may be trying to get better severance pay, guaranteed COBRA coverage, and a promise that they won't give any info to potential employers other than the dates you left. Edit: rather than trying to get the job back.
Also, please be careful about what you sign. They cannot require you to sign anything to receive your back pay. Don't let them slip you a release. (It's been tried before.)
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Does this mean more beautiful photos from hikes in the mountains for us?
I'd use my four-week's pay to buy a new float tube and some fishing gear, and spend all summer on the lake.
Better yet, move west to the Rockies and start a weekend retreat lodge for uptight, corporate types. As long as you're going to work for people who have cranially impacted rectums, they might as well be rich ones.
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On the sorta-bright side, there is at least one outright lie in there. "Didn't notify" my...butt.
I'm sorry, Jamie:( It looks as though you'll have substantial legal recourse, but it won't be fun (Jamie)
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quote:Also, please be careful about what you sign. They cannot require you to sign anything to receive your back pay. Don't let them slip you a release. (It's been tried before.)
Yeah, Dag, I just IM'd the same thing to her.
Jamie, you should speak with a lawyer, at least for a consult, before you respond to this letter.
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For me, the worst part of a series of really bad things is that they did not even tell you in PERSON?
As for Cobra, whether or not you qualify for it, it is ridiculously expensive.
I think you have a case, because you have a disablility, and they fired you because of it. Were you diagnosed with ADD before you were eighteen? Or with anything? Because the protection under IDEA(something Disability something Act) should help. I think.
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You know, this could be all for the best. My dad just got laid off a few months back, but now that he has another job that he likes (and that he doesn't have to commute 2 hours to), he said that getting laid off was the best thing that his company could have done for him.
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Paying COBRA premiums for a few months will probably be better than starting over with pre-existing condition exclusions on the next job.
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Sorry I don't have any constructive advice to offer. All I have to offer is hugs. (((mack))) I do agree with what rivka said.
You are a good person and don't deserve to be treated this way. I know you're good at what you do. You'll find another job, maybe even a better one. Just don't let these jerks get the best of you.
My mom was fired unjustly from her job and went through a mediation involving some state agency, I forget the name, and it turned out well in the end. I hope your situation does, too.
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Sorry for your misfortune, Mack. I don't have anything to add to what has already been said, other than to say that I hope you find a better job soon. Good luck. Posts: 13123 | Registered: Feb 2002
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mack, New Hampshire is covered by the Boston Area office of the EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission). I suggest that you call them tomorrow and ask to speak to someone about your situation. 800-669-4000
I'll IM you later.
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Mack, I'm so sorry to hear this, it's unjust and outrageous. You definitely cannot just let this go. Like everyone else said - get some legal advice.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. It makes me very angry. It's pretty similar to what happened to me. I agree with those who have said to get a lawyer. File a report with the EEOC and follow through even if you get another job. (I didn't, and now I'm screwed. It happened again at my next job.) Apply immediately for public assistance and health coverage. Usually disabilities have different rules as far as assets go. Without an income, it may be impossible to keep up with COBRA payments. You need to be able to continue to see your P-doc during this time.
Don't let 'em get you down. Keep in contact with your support groups. Kick some more things. Grrr.
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Hey Mack - Don't know enough about US labour relations to offer advice, and from the looks of this thread you don't need any more, anyway, but that really sucks. Hope things start looking up real soon.
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Then, that DOES suck. I'd be pissed off. They gave you no notice...nothing? At least they're giving you 4-weeks pay. But if you don't resign, this termination could follow you to your next job, huh? Oh, man. I'm sorry.
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