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Wow. I did not know this, but it is old news, I am sure for those who live in Oklahoma and thereabouts. Apparently, methamphetamines are made from Sudafed and other decongestants.
quote: Oklahoma was the first state to restrict the availability of pseudoephedrine, a decongestant crucial in making meth, by moving certain non-prescription cold tablets such as Sinutab and Sudafed behind the pharmacy counter. Shoppers in Oklahoma are limited in how many packets of the medication containing pseudoephedrine they can buy at one time and must show ID and sign for the tablets.
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Here in Wisconsin we have to tell them our age but I don't think we have to show ID...yet. It's no longer possible to by the economy-size bottles, either-- just blister-packs of 24. Apparently there are a lot of meth labs in the southwest part of the state.
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Yeah - and they just passed the same thing in Kansas (takes effect June 1, I believe) because all those Okies were coming up here to get it after the OK law passed... FG
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Many of the stores here (Chicago area) are enforcing a two-package limit. Most of the pharmacy and convenience stores have had their cold medicines under lock and key for as much as a year, Walmart and the grocery stores are starting to do the same.
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My son uses Sudafed for his allergies, not sure how often, though. I have no idea if my husband (who generally buys the Sudafed) knows about this either.
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They had on the news the other night about some new, speeded-up method the druggies have come up with to create Meth, that can be done all in one bottle and doesn't require annhydrous ammonia (as the most common current practice does). It heats a lot hotter and is much more volatile while making it -- but the end product comes out more pure, and is much more lethal.
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Well, glue, Nyquil and such is considered minor league.
Meth is a HUGE business -- a very adult business. Sure there are some kids using it, but most of the manufacturers of it are adults.
That's what they are trying to shut down.
Plus - the stores are probably all for this legistlation -- they are having the stuff shoplifted left and right. People not only want it, they don't want to have to pay for it..
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Sudafed has been locked up here for at least six months. Several of the smaller stores will no longer carry it, and among the ones that do, there is a 2 package limit.
However, I asked a lady about this in our little store in town, and she said rather than trying to enforce the limit it's just easier not to carry it. She says that she and the other women are afraid to enforce the limit because they don't want to be saying "no" to someone who might possibly already be under the influence. I think a lot of this fear has come about from the recent kidnap and murder of a 9-year-old from a town about 40 minutes away. She was murdered because her attackers thought she'd seen their meth lab.
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Wow...now it's going to take forever to accumulate enough Sudafed to make a nice sized batch of meth... Posts: 1480 | Registered: Dec 2004
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Not the least of which being the physical hazards of a lab, the toxic and explosive gases that can accumulate, making any drug raid that much more dangerous.
Meth is also making inroads to suburban housewives as a means of being the "perfect wife" - all the energy you could ever want, no appetite to speak of and the perfect waistline.
Of course, people rationalize the dangers in favor of the promised rewards and end up paying more than they ever thought, one way or another.
quote: WASHINGTON - An association representing more than 36,000 pharmacies is issuing guidelines for possible federal legislation to restrict sales of cold medications containing a substance often used in the illegal manufacture of methamphetamine — or "speed."
[ May 01, 2005, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: Elizabeth ]
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The meth-production factors aside, OD'ing on sudafed itself gets you kinda high. Once in college I had a flu, and my roommate convinced me "the regular dose might make the symptoms go away, but 2 or 3 times the does will actually help you get over the illness." Hey, my brain was an enormous ball of snot, so it seemed plausible at the time.
I remember laying on the floor with my feet on the wall because I thought that way was down, watching cartoons and announcing to random passers-by that if I looked like a female skunk, I'd put out for Pepe LePew.
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Ugh. Taking Sudafed in prescribed doses is nasty enough for me. But when my sinuses are acting up, Sudafed Nondrying Sinus works really well. And it is expenxive. So I might start looking for sales now and stock up before doing so will get me arrested.
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I knew that a lot of places started taking sudafed off the market a while back, because of side effects and possible drug abuse.
I accidentally overdosed on sudafed once...it was really wierd. My heart kept racing, and I couldn't sit still. I don't take things with much ephedra in it anymore either, because it gives me the shakes.
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Ephedra (naturally occuring ephedrine and pseudoephedrine) suppresses the appetite and releases norepinephrine, giving one more energy and boosting the metabolism. So bodybuilders and dieters like it.
Edit: and as far as I am concerned, if it does not result in a trip to the ER, a heart attack, or death, it does not count as an overdose.
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Right - I knew the substance was popular with dieters and to a certain extent bodybuilders, but it sounded like she was finding the stuff in more generic products outside of a relatively specialized niche.
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