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Ayato
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Ive just spent the last two months of my life doing nothing but conquering the world with the Greeks and Romans in Rome: Total War( [Hail] ) for the PC...it’s very very engrossing and fun. So anyways, I was wondering if anyone else plays it and if anyone knows of other strategy games that are good…
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Starcraft, my lurker friend.
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Hearken not to this foul heretic, who believes that Starcraft is a strategy game. What doctrine could be more absurd? Certainly he will suffer many pangs in Purgatory for such a statement, if indeed he is not condemned to burn forevermore in Hell, where sulphurous demons shall eat of his flesh.

Get thee to the Paradox site, go! Here thou shalt find the True Games.

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KoM, you crack me up. I'm currently playing Europa Universalis II. Great times all around.
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Ayato
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Hmm, that Knights of Honor game looks interesting. Nice music too. [Smile]
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King of Men
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There is no game company but Paradox, and Johan is its Prophet.
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[ROFL] [ROFL] [ROFL]

Dude, KOM, Starcraft is THE stradegy game. It kicks butt! And there are proffesional leagues of it in Korea with televised games, or so I hear [Wink]

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King of Men
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Yes, I've heard this too. I don't see what it is supposed to prove. The Tao that can be rewarded by money is not the true Tao.
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Nor does a thing sounding obscure make it profound. [Wink]

[ May 03, 2005, 11:32 PM: Message edited by: Kwea ]

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King of Men
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What's obscure about it? Clearly Starcraft does not partake of the Tao of Paradox. (You need to scroll down a bit.)

Here is wisdom; let him hear, that hath understanding.

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Does any only else here remember Total Annihilation? I loved that game! I played it for hours on end!
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Get thee to Shogun: Total War.

That's my bread n butter [Cool]

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I have wasted many hours of my youth playing a little known game called Star Wars: Rebellion. Much preferable to the Age of Empire's rip off: Galactic Battlegrounds.

Mechcommander is pretty good too, though probably not on par with the type of strategy games you're used to.

[ May 04, 2005, 02:26 AM: Message edited by: Epictetus ]

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I never really got into TA, the game just didn't appeal to me. Which is sad, because there is no doubt whatsoever that it has the greatest interface known to RTS games.

Anyway, no strategy talk can be complete without doffing one's hat to Myth II. When someone beat you in that it was as close to the feeling of "their brain beat my brain" you get from chess without actually playing chess. Not necessarily deservedly so, it just felt like it.

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Any and all total war games are excellent choices. Best buy right now is the bundle with medieval + viking invasion. Very excellent strategy game, and fairly cheap now thtat Rome: Total War is out.
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Alcon
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Star Wars: Rebellion -> most excellent classic.
Total Annihilation: mass units, mass defense, duke it out. Kinda fun, but it got really old really fast.
Myth II: amazing stradegy game. I'll just second what BtL said about it [Wink]

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Man, I sucked at Myth II. Not once did I win a multiplayer game.
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quote:
Dude, KOM, Starcraft is THE stradegy game. It kicks butt! And there are proffesional leagues of it in Korea with televised games, or so I hear
AHA! I've been backed up. Now my flesh shall only be slightly reddened. [Razz]
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KoM is wise, young grasshoppers. Seek the Paradox, and understand enigmas!

-Bok

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Rakeesh
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If you want a strategy game, you should play Civilization III, or Rise of Nations.
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twinky
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Great. Blocked from work. [Razz]

(Oddly, the filter blocked KoM's link because it was to a forum, but here I am posting on Hatrack. As far as I can tell the filter mostly works by looking at the domain name, so hatrack.com/forum is allowed but forum.hatrack.com wouldn't be. Lucky me!)

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I'd actually like to recommend a game that no one has ever played: King of Dragon Pass. If you can find a copy, it's a fascinating way to spend an evening.
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You want strategy? Play go. A good place to play is KGS.
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King of Men
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Hey, how do you get cool Chinese (Japanese? Korean?) characters in your username? And do those have any particular meaning, or were they just chosen at random?

*Ponders how to nickname 囲碁 *

*Remembers he's officially a troll*

[Growly troll voice] Welcome, noobie. I like noobies. With ketchup. [/Growly troll voice]

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KoM, I'm just an alt. So you can't eat me. Especially with ketchup. [Razz]

The answer to your second question can be found in my first link above. For a nick you can call me Igo (like ego), or my real name if you can figure it out, which shouldn't be too hard. [Smile]

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Sid Meier
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Starcraft, Hearts of Iron 2, EUII is probly good I never played it I cant afford it, Rise of Nations Thrones and patriots, Command and COnquer Generals + Zero Hour. Axis and allies if you dont want the whole building masses of villages aspect to the game and a wwii aspect as well. Homeworld 2, Civilization II and III. All good strat games.
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I strongly recommend Brothers In Arms for strategy.

It's not a real time strategy game, it's more of a first person shooter strategy. You are in first person shooter mode, but you can right click and tell your troops (say, like, 4 of them) to go to a location or to attack a location. So it's not so much "build such and such a building and get this" more "command troops in strategic battle."

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I highly recommend The Foundation . It is a browser based strategy mmorpg game based on Asimov's books.

Even tho it only takes about 15 minutes at a time (1-3 times per day), it gets really intense.

I have been promoted once and am in the thick of the game. Although I have built a small army with limited funds, I have trained a capable assassin and have very strong alliances.

I am now being forced to choose going against someone who is represents the Foundation or a very powerful Independent Lord.

The Lord is stronger in this scenario, and I could win more planets if I have his support. However, I am also an independent Lord and have the same goals as him. If we are allies, there will be less good planets that a Lord would want--or worse, he could attack me. I want the Lord to be week so my relative strength is strong.

He claims the Foundation Representative is corrupt and plans to back stab me. I am allied with both of them, and they are both at war. Whoever I break my allegiance with will have a very hard time meeting their goals. The Foundation Representative has not communicated with me for a while.

Oh, what to do?!!!

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Lyrhawn
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Well, I didn't want to start a whole new thread for it, but Star Wars: Empire at War just came out and I bought it almost immediately. I've been ANXIOUSLY awaiting it's arrival for sometime now.

Single player is boring as all hell. There's something like 10 different ship types, and that's between both sides. Combat is fun, for awhile, but it gets old fast. The AI sucks, you have to fight every battle personally or risk losing all your forces, or worse, the battle itself. It's just really not what I expected at all. I was hoping for a lot more variety. At least the graphics are sweet, but sugar coating only lasts so long.

Ctrl Alt Del knows how I feel: SW:EAW

But I'm going to give it another try. I've yet to play it on multiplayer, which is supposed to be revolutionary and fantastic, so I will give that a try. And I did give campaign mode a shot, and it's pretty cool. For the moment however I am being diverted by Battle for Middle Earth, which has led me to believe that BFME 2 could be the sweetest game ever.

Still, compared to Empire at War, I really, really miss Star Wars Rebellion. Couldn't they have just created a souped up 21st century version of that instead?

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It's a bit of an oldie now, but as far as strategy games are concerned, high up on my list would be Conquest: Frontier Wars. The plot is similar to Starcraft (humans, energy hyper-tech beings, and a swarming insectoid race), but it's got more depth, and it adds a lot more depth and strategic-style thinking than a game like Starcraft, which usually dissolves into a game of intensive resource-management and acquisition.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/160/160585p1.html

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I sunk a decent while into Massive Assault on my Mac last fall, and an even longer period into Romance of the Three Kingdoms X for PS2. Presently I'm fiddling with Battalion Wars for GC, and there's a copy of Homeworld 2 on my desk that I bought at about the same time as Massive Assault and will be playing just as soon as I have time.
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Sid Meier
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KoM you have yet to anwser my email, please respond, requesting radio contact, we want the war to end.
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Galactic Civilizations 2 is a great strategy game that has been eating up way too much of my time. I would highly recommend it.

BTW: Not sure if this makes a difference for anyone, but its European publisher is Paradox.

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Sid Meier
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I know, I frequent www.paradoxplaza.com alot.
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Anyone else get Battle for Middle Earth or Empire at War?
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Sid, I do not use that email to respond to PMs because it uses my full name. If I wanted people to know that, I'd use it for a login. However, I don't bear a grudge; if you want to play MP, why not post in the CK MP forum? There are two games there that have open positions, and that I play in. I think you said you recently bought CK?
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I ordered it via a friend I'll get it asap so continue on don't wait for me but however I will watch and learn your style of play so I don't make an donkey of me self.

Adam add me to msn and we can play a game. sid_meier@hotmail.com

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I assure you that waiting for someone to get the game was really the farthest thing from my mind.
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*gasp* now my illusion of granduer has been revealed.
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Master of Orion II

Master of Orion II

MASTER OF ORION II

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Meh, I say meh. I played MOOIII and while I liked the Macro vs Micro management there were too little things that annoyed me. Like I couldn't fit "United Federation of Planets" as my empire name.
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Master of Orion II:

You get to design you own ships, and with better and better technology as you research. Combat (for strategic combat) is turned based and awesome (well, not the best graphically) and how you build your ships makes a big difference.

You control the populace of your world(s) and can make them either farmers, workers, or scientists. You get leaders who give your population bonuses, and officers who give your ships bonus.

There are spies (a simplistic but decent system) that can steal technology, blow things up or defend your empire.

You get to design your own race with different advantages and disadvantages (always take the "creative" advantage).

The AI on the aliens is decent, and you can set up the game with different number of players (even your friends on your network) different sizes of space, different starting technology, different difficulty setting, etc, etc.

The coolest part about this game is that you can right click on almost anything and it will tell you what it is.

MOOIII sux btw. MOOII rox!!!

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That is why comrade StoneWolf was referring to the second game of that name. The third - well, we do not speak of the third.
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The third was a fallen prophet. It told lies to the flock and must be shunned at all cost. Its father, however, was wise and good.
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You get to design your own race with different advantages and disadvantages (always take the "creative" advantage).
Really, this is the one weakness of MOO2 : The creative trait is so incredibly powerful that it is broken. There is just no winning strategy that doesn't include being creative. For MP play, there should really be a house rule that you can't take creative.
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For MP play, there should really be a house rule that you can't take creative.
:Agree:
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Are you into turn-based strategy games as well?

If so, then I highly suggest you pick up Fire Emblem for the GBA (which is actually a more of a turn-based RPG) and Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for the GameCube. Those are two of my favorite games of all time--great stories, addicting gameplay, amazing character development, etc.

Also, the same company (Intelligent Systems) also makes another great series of turn based strategy games, which are not RPG based (the Advance Wars series). There are two of them for the GBA and one for the DS. Awesome games as well.

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Stone_Wolf, have you considered trying Galciv2? It is a very fun game.
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