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I think the issue is the fact that commercials are created (for the most part) by the tobacco companies. If I had to make a commercial advertising how awful my product was, you can bet that I'd make the commercial as bad as I thought I could get away with.
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They're made from the money the states got from the tobacco industries after the big lawsuits years ago.
I like ads that make smokers look uncool and especially that point out the health effects and the wretched actions of cigarette companies over the years.
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Coming from a family of smokers (not me), everyone in my family agrees that the commercials contain subliminal messages that still encourage smoking.
I know that every time one of them came on, it was time for a smoke break.
(then again, my family is the "rebellious" type)
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Why? That's just as flimsy an argument as "smoking makes your look cool." I don't think smoking has any effect on one's cool points. Blowing smoke rings or french inhaling on the other hand - Super Cool!
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That's ok. I have to smoke or else my cool points would shoot through the roof and I really would be too cool for school. I've got to keep a cap on it so I don't intimidate people. Really, I just smoke for the good of mankind.
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I'm not a big fan of the ads. Most of the time I just find them ridiculous. i.e. The ones where the guy goes around to different recovery centers asking if they treat addiction to m&ms and jogging.
I am a smoker trying to quit. The ads haven't really affected my desire to quit though. (Or given me any magical willpower)
Personally, I find myself endlessly amused by the anti drug ads, where people smoking pot look like giant lumps, or stunted freaks, or they just stare complacently out of windows.
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quote: Most of the time I just find them ridiculous. i.e. The ones where the guy goes around to different recovery centers asking if they treat addiction to m&ms and jogging.
Yup. Those are the worst ones.
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I work in a life insurance office at the moment. It always amazes me how much higher premiums are for smokers than nonsmokers - sometimes twice as much or more.
Yet, every day I still see people standing outside smoking, alone, fifty feet from the building or so.
I mean, they look at these policies and see the underwriting and see the premium increases and the life expectancy tables - and they still feel the need to go out in the rain and light up under a tree in the parking lot?
It's not even a social thing, since most of them go out alone - I've even seen people begging other less frequent smokers to go out with them, and when they say no, going out alone to stand around with a cigarette.
It's really kind of sad.
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I don't smoke, I have no desire to smoke, but those Truth ads almost make me want to take up smoking just because they're so obnoxious, and I want to rally against them.
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They should just do little "Now you Know" segments about how nicotine is an incredibly toxic contact poison, and how nicotine powder was used in the early rennaissance period to kill people.
They'd be interesting and informative.
This is an interesting anti-drug tidbit, too... though nothing on nicotine. Maybe nicotine kills the spiders outright.
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That caffeine web is a work of art. I'm gonna go drink a pot of coffee and start writing!
I love those recent "don't smoke pot" commercials, where someone talks about how they listened to their friends and smoked, pot, and then they listened to their friends and did something "stupid."
The "stupid" thing is always pretty cool. See, you never knew you could outrun the junkyard dog until you listened to your stoner friends and smoked a fatty. Either your stoner friends are good motivators, or marijuana makes you run like the wind!
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Thats so strange that people hate the anti smoking adds so much. Maybe we hate being told what to do so directly?
Could somebody outline to me what would constituted a GOOD anti smoking commercial? Apprarently pointing out the drawbacks to smoking does not work.
Does this mean if somebody put out a smoking advertisement that was so over the top positive towards smoking, people would quit?
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You do realize that its those evil Hobbits, and their pipe weed that has grown into the tobbacco industry we know and loathe today.
Gandalph and Aragon, and how many other leaders, captured by their addictive weed into wasting their time and effort protecting the fields.
Only brave and honorable Saramon, greatest of the wizards, was able to break the addiction and go on a crusade to erradicate the weed. Yet he fell to the violence inherant in the system as the drug dealers and pushers in their little hobbit holes did that little ride-by gang shooting.
Witnesses report how the gang of "half-lings" were led by two steroid using brutes (E.N.T-Moot was the steroid of choice).
Saramun was "the Boss!". He was burning the fields man. He was burning the fields. So they burned him, and burned him good.
Today, with their corporate white wash and big tobacco money, they brought in one of their own to rewrite history. Tolkien was one of their addicts (ever picture of him shows his abuse of the tobacco). Peter Jackson is one of them, and their attempt to rewrite history, making these big-business-moguls appear as the underdogs, is as pathetic as these anti-smoking comercials.
Saramon lives man, as long as you and me, we keep up the fight against little brother, the tobacco kings, the nasty hobbits.
(This post paid for by the Smeagol's For Clean Air Committee)
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I don't mind the smoking isn't cool ads becuase for decades the smoking IS cool ads worked like a charm.
And the truth ads might be a little obnoxious, but they are litterally telling the truth. I don't mind that.
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I think the anti-marijuana ads are even more stupid.
"You used to be taller. What happened?" "Pressure."
What the crap?
The only one I've liked, I think, is the one where the guy is always the DD at parties because his friends get stoned and drunk, and as a result he's the only one who's coherent enough to get girls.
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I still just miss the anti-drug adds with Rachel Leigh Cook flipping out and destroying the kitchen... those were great.
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I liked that one. I don't think it'd actually stop anyone from doing drugs, but I like Rachel Leigh Cook.
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quote:Originally posted by cheiros do ender: One day I'll smoke.
Why?
Too much authority trying to get me not to. Nothing annoys me more than having to pay extra for something because some pretentious snob, or snobs, want me not to have it. That is, except for that extra money (revenue) being spent to tell me not to yet again.
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quote:Originally posted by TheGrimace: I still just miss the anti-drug adds with Rachel Leigh Cook flipping out and destroying the kitchen... those were great.
I think the anti-smoker ads tend to try for angles they think will reach young people and instead just end up looking ridiculous. Though I saw one today which was very interesting and I enjoyed, about the multi-flavored ones.
edit: gah! lag! I was talking about pH's *first* post
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I don't mind the anti-smoking ads. As cornball as it was, when Nancy Reagan said, "Just say 'No,'" I just said "No." When MacGyver told me that a fried egg was my brain on drugs, I didn't take drugs. On T.V., when some kid would come huffing and puffing into home plate, and then we cut to a scene of him smoking behind the dugout, I didn't want to huff and puff, so I didn't smoke.
I think that smoking is more or less popular in different states. For example, I'm still getting used to all of the smoking in the Midwest, or maybe California is just an outlier. For the most part, smoking cigarettes stopped being acceptable for adults in the late 80s.
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I did know a guy who thought the medical research about smoking was a scam. Sort of like how you can run into people who think the MMR causes autism, or that Lance Armstrong was on EPO, or that the drug companies invented the idea that St. John's Wort counteracts birth control pills, or that hormone replacement therapy causes cancer. Wait...
Well, anyway, he built one of our computers for us a couple of (system) generations back.
Heh. I was just watching the commentary of FOTR where PJ thought he would get flak over the pipeweed scene.
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quote:Originally posted by cheiros do ender: One day I'll smoke.
Why?
Too much authority trying to get me not to. Nothing annoys me more than having to pay extra for something because some pretentious snob, or snobs, want me not to have it. That is, except for that extra money (revenue) being spent to tell me not to yet again.
Ever heard the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face"?
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I preferred the old Anti-smoking and Anti-drug commercials where authority figures told you not to do drugs, or where they showed someone who was in the hospital for lung cancer or something. Those made sense, and they made an impact.
Some jackass telling me that executives of cigarette companies are idiots doesn't make me want to smoke less, it just makes me wish the jackass would shut up so I can watch my TV.
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I guess this past monday marked 5 years that I haven't watched network TV apart from the Olympics. I remember seeing an ad for Passion of the Christ and thinking it was going to turn out to be a Visa ad.
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I wish they would make personalized advertizing. Like, I'm never going to smoke or drink, so they can stop bothering me with those ads.
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