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fleetwood
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Yeah fugu, your email went through. I'm thinking about it before I respond.

I would appreciate any help you can give Phanto, thanks.

Thanks to everybody else for responding as well.

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I know this feeling... I want to make a living writing.
I am tired of working at the supermarket, of not earing enough money or having a social life or being stuck on foodstamps when they can decide to cut 90% of them.
Currently I dislike my life and situation...

But only a bit.

[ June 24, 2004, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Synesthesia ]

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mph I don't think it makes a difference in my argument that it can apply to everyone.
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fallow
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mack,

I have a hard time getting my head around the sheer productivity you describe and the apparent lack of reward for it. it's rigoddamndiculous! not to mention fairly depressing.

fallow

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*bump*
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mackillian
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What, my two novels?

The first is a first novel and has all the problems of that type.

The second is...well, I need to get off my ass.

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fallow
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*delivers swift kick to Mack's booty*

anything I can do to help?

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Yeah, find me an agent. [Wink]
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wish I could. [Smile] I could try and "play" agent. What are you trying to do?
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I have to sell my manuscript to a publisher. Generally, you need an agent. So I have to query agents, get one of them to read the manuscript, agree to represent it, and hopefully, sell it to a publishing house.
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(not an agent)

What kind of response have you gotten so far? What kind of avenues have you tried?

curious.

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I sent out queries about a year ago, and sent off stuff to Tor. No response from Tor ever, and negatives from agents. *sigh*

And I KNOW it's a good novel. I KNOW it is.

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oh.

why do you KNOW it is? and, what about the photography thing? Is that part of the books?

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I mentioned this thread to a coworker, Barbara. It's her bf (Jim) who is the electrician/tinsmith. Jim does demos at our local Fort Museum. Jim knows a guy who does this six months of the year and collects unemployment for the other six months. Apparently he gets enough to live on. [Wink]

The types of things Jim makes include small things you can hold in your hands. I think Barbara mentioned some of his recent work - a wall sconce is the only thing I can remember. I'll email you his email addy so you can ask him quesions if you want. He does trade on ebay, but the name Barbara gave me didn't come up.

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Because I've been told that by many brutally honest people.

And I could easily do a photography book...one of my projects was a photojournalessay thing that I still have to finish.

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on what?

what did the brutally honest people say? were they familiar with the writing content found in the places you were submitting to?

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www.madowl.com

lots of the stuff is explained there [Smile]

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Thanks, Caysedai.

I've actually sold some stuff at a fundraiser for my schools art department. Jewelry made from silver and antique watch parts.

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mack,

thanks for the link. photography's hard. I think. Possibly more difficult than writing.

fallow

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I actually find it easier for some reason.
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To sell or to do? Sorry, I should have prefaced that last post with the commercial/biz aspect you lamented in the post I was originally interested in.

[ June 26, 2004, 12:43 AM: Message edited by: fallow ]

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Oh, to DO. Everything is hard to sell.
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Then why do I spend so much money?
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Mack,

on the writing thing. where do you think the disconnect is between your harsh but available critics and your unresponsive, unavailable (commercial) ones?

fallow

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Having time to read the manuscript.
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that's hopeful.

could I read something of it?

[ June 26, 2004, 01:03 AM: Message edited by: fallow ]

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Sure. I'll email you the first three chapters.
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really?!

that would be sweet. something to read over the weekend!

thanks in advance.

fallow

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sent [Smile]
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I also went the stupid route in my education (major in cultural anthropology, minors in religious studies and literature).

Guess what education I have never used except in my hobbys?

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mack,

nice read. thank you.

fallow

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