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Blayne Bradley
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Grow up, Orincoro.

And, honestly, I agree with Blayne in this situation. I'd rather EG be an incredibly good low-budget low-profile movie than a run-of-the-mill Hollywood action movie. Apparently OSC wants to change everything about Hollywood in order to make the perfect movie: mainstream, high-budget, completely controled by him, and completely faithful to the book. Of course it would be awesome it that were possible, but I'm guessing he'll end up compromising something or other along the way.

On this note they already have, the switch from the numbing pistols to some sort of hand blast Danny Phantom style, I don't know however if the studios wanting the ethnic makeout of Battleschool to resemble the US instead of the World, I recall them wanting this but I think OSC resisted it though.
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If only Pixar could have made Firefly...

...instead of Whedon.

I agree.

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...with Whedon
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You can't have it both ways.
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Is Pixar a director now?
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At this point the movie couldn't be controlled by him and faithful to the book. It needs to be made by someone who respects the original material (and has even read it recently enough to remember very basic elements about it and doesn't have to appeal to this community to have those details filled in, then write a book afterward in which the character bears little to no resemblance to the one in the first book).

OSC doesn't have the understanding or respect for the Ender's Game novel as he originally wrote it. Now he's released the new version that's compatible with the new crap books. When someone makes late stage revisionism at this scale it should seem fairly obvious what the outcome will be. EG the Book: EG The Movie = Star Wars:Fantom Mennis.

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Ender's Game may work better as an animated feature but as an anime it would have only niche appeal. Pass.
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Is Pixar a director now?
Pixar can do anything.
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At this point the movie couldn't be controlled by him and faithful to the book. It needs to be made by someone who respects the original material (and has even read it recently enough to remember very basic elements about it and doesn't have to appeal to this community to have those details filled in, then write a book afterward in which the character bears little to no resemblance to the one in the first book).

OSC doesn't have the understanding or respect for the Ender's Game novel as he originally wrote it. Now he's released the new version that's compatible with the new crap books. When someone makes late stage revisionism at this scale it should seem fairly obvious what the outcome will be. EG the Book: EG The Movie = Star Wars:Fantom Mennis.

This started well but ended horribly. I may not have read this alledged new revised Ender's Game but to my impression the only changes are minor such as changing the reference to 30 something Wing Commanders that made up his geesh to the 12 something it actually turns out to be and other minor details like that.

Also the books that came after were great thogh in hindsight the politics in the Shadow books seemed naive and simplistic.

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Ender's Game may work better as an animated feature but as an anime it would have only niche appeal. Pass.

And how would you tell the difference between movie quality anime and whatever TV animation you've seen? Have you ever seen Spirited Away?
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
Ender's Game may work better as an animated feature but as an anime it would have only niche appeal. Pass.

And how would you tell the difference between movie quality anime and whatever TV animation you've seen? Have you ever seen Spirited Away?
Thing is the last movie Miyazaki made with the brutal violece I think Ender's Game would need was Princess Mononoke. It seems like he's strayed from action, and instead likes to explore wistful trippy stories. Not that there is anything wrong with that I liked Howls Moving Castle, but it's sorta like asking Steven Spielberg to make movies like Jurassic Park again. It just seems like even if he was into it, he might not be able to.
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I just picked an example off the top of my head.
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I just picked an example off the top of my head.

There aren't many other anime directors I'd trust with Ender's Game. Miyazaki tops the list and even he gives me cause to doubt.
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I picked a random example of one of his movies as they have the example of an animation style I think would work perfectly. As for who we would trust to direct the movie correctly I have know idea, maybe Steven Spielberg?
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I spent the entirety of Spirited Away wondering what I was missing. It made me feel like an outsider.
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It's OK, Jamio, I had the same feeling. I decided later I wasn't supposed to understand any of it.
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quote:
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Originally posted by kamp101:
At this point the movie couldn't be controlled by him and faithful to the book. It needs to be made by someone who respects the original material (and has even read it recently enough to remember very basic elements about it and doesn't have to appeal to this community to have those details filled in, then write a book afterward in which the character bears little to no resemblance to the one in the first book).

OSC doesn't have the understanding or respect for the Ender's Game novel as he originally wrote it. Now he's released the new version that's compatible with the new crap books. When someone makes late stage revisionism at this scale it should seem fairly obvious what the outcome will be. EG the Book: EG The Movie = Star Wars:Fantom Mennis.

This started well but ended horribly. I may not have read this alledged new revised Ender's Game but to my impression the only changes are minor such as changing the reference to 30 something Wing Commanders that made up his geesh to the 12 something it actually turns out to be and other minor details like that.

Also the books that came after were great thogh in hindsight the politics in the Shadow books seemed naive and simplistic.

Darn, I was hoping everyone would just ignore this.
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It's OK, Jamio, I had the same feeling. I decided later I wasn't supposed to understand any of it.

Maybe its because I could only find the English version but between Tv Tropes and Wikipedia I don't think I failed to catch anything about the movie, is there something in particular that comes to mind?
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quote:
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Ender's Game may work better as an animated feature but as an anime it would have only niche appeal. Pass.

And how would you tell the difference between movie quality anime and whatever TV animation you've seen? Have you ever seen Spirited Away?
I've seen Spirited Away, every Studio Ghibli movie, and every piece of Japanese animation ever to get a north american theater release, and a couple of my projects for my film courses were comprehensive essays on Miyazaki's influence on western cinema / animation / etc.

Later on a kind of a throwaway essay in a sociology class about how western cultural interest in anime had peaked and was ebbing away.

There's no reason to make ender's game an anime.

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quote:
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Originally posted by scifibum:
It's OK, Jamio, I had the same feeling. I decided later I wasn't supposed to understand any of it.

Maybe its because I could only find the English version but between Tv Tropes and Wikipedia I don't think I failed to catch anything about the movie, is there something in particular that comes to mind?
What the hell were all those creatures?
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