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Fable is rated M because of Patience, believe it or not. There's no nudity but there is alot of fighting. Tell me, Tammy... what all games does this 13 year old have?
For instance.... Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct and stuff like that are WORSE than Fable... so if he has those and he's not allowed to have Fable, might as well get rid of those games, too.
There is some harsh language. Things like "Damn" and "Ass" and "Hell". But I don't think there are any F-Bombs on it.
My thought... if you would let your 13 year old come on this site as a regular member and have no problem with him reading everything here, he's probably OK with Fable.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure it's rated M because, once your character is married, you can have marital relations with your wife. They don't show it...but they do provide a soundtrack (though not a terribly explicit one, certainly not something a 13-year-old should experience, imho).
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I don't know about that Megan.. but I wouldn't doubt it... BUT.. however... if that is the case... then if you're kid has a game called "The Sims" might as well take that away from him because you can do the same thing. Same as Xeno Gears.
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that would also be the case. My parents were way too strict. I can say from personal experience that me not being allowed to watch jaws and jurrasic park and what not caused me to have a certain hatred from my mother. I don't even talk to her now that I'm out of her house. So i guess it also depends on the reaction of the kids. As a future parent, i have already decided to let my kids watch R rated and M rated things.... not porn... but i would let them watch HBO and the like. The same goes for games.
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I got to watch rated R things at 10... so i don't see why my kid wouldn't. Of course, that was until mom caught me trying to act like a pteradctyl and jump off the apartment. That was just a ten year olds imagination, though. I'll let him watch R at 10.
In other words, my opinion towards the post that started this argument is yes, I think your 13 year old is old enough to have and play Fable.
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"I can say from personal experience that me not being allowed to watch jaws and jurrasic park and what not caused me to have a certain hatred from my mother."
Wow. That's rather shallow of you, don't you think?
I mean, sure, go ahead and hate your mother for whatever reason you want -- but perhaps you should come up with one that's better than "she didn't let me watch some movies when I was younger."
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Tom - Well of COURSE there are many reasons... and yes, i could see why me posting that THAT would be the only reason could be taken to offense. It's not the only reason. But I'm not going to post it all here. Because, hey, this is about Fable.
? - You can do the same in The Sims. Not get drunk and vomit... but you CAN piss your pants. And you can do your wive(s) and beat and kill people. So why isn't IT rated M?
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Hate to tell you, Telp, but none of the guys in the game are really all that cute. . . or bright. . . they mostly say things like, "There are none braver than the Ranger." The biggest stress they undergo is finding out more gossip about you.
The girls, at least, are cute.
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I freely admit I have yet to understand what particulars go into turning a woman's head and I still have the damndest time trying to predict what my buddy likes, so Telp may find his virtual love yet.
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What a shame. The Barber(female) in Browerstone wants me to marry her. But I'm holding out for the mayor. Posts: 8741 | Registered: Apr 2001
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quote:Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct
He doesn't own any of these games and he's only allowed to rent videos and games that have PG-13 or Teen ratings. The video store has the R Rated Movies and Mature rated videos locked under his name. He hasn't even expressed interest in Sims so I haven't had to deal with that. He just saw Fable advertised and expressed interest. He's mainly interested in Sports related games and Star Wars.
Sure he complains and tries to "bargain" with me. I get a lot of "dang mom"'s from him. *shrugs*
I'm not as strict with my children as my parents were with me. It's a completely different world now. My mother didn’t allow me to watch Happy Days when I was young. Why? My mother at the time thought it had to many adult themes. Well dang, I thought it was about teenagers and their friends and family. She laughs about the sensoring now. She was doing what she thought was best at the time. What my mother didn't realize was that I was reading things in books that she'd never allow me to watch on TV. She never censored my books, just TV. Go figure!
Do I censor my children? Hell yeah I do. However, I think my judgment on what I allow them to watch is pretty balanced. He has a TV with cable hookup in his bedroom. The rule is that when he's watching TV, he leaves the door open. It’s just a precaution. There's a lot of crap out there on cable. I know, I watch some of it.
I've never had a problem with Jurassic Park or movies along the same line. I've let him watch The Patriot with Mel Gibson because of the story line. We watched Alien and similar movies together. In fact he’s pretty much allowed to watch most Science Fiction movies. I can’t think of any that I didn’t let him watch. He's watched several R rated movies with me. I hold the remote. I edit as I see fit.
I admit I have this warped habit of justifying violence in some movies and games. I'd rather him see violent scenes rather than sexually explicit ones.
I tried to introduce him to Hatrack. He’s not interested. I lucked out with this kid. He fusses appropriately like a kid should, yet he doesn’t hate me for placing boundaries….yet.
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Ok... But you still didn't answer the rest of the post.
WHAT ALL GAMES DOES HE HAVE.
Surely you can tell me. Based on what games he has, i can tell you if he's cool for Fable. And don't be fooled by sports games. Some of them are exceptionally violent.
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NFL Blitz Pro NHL Rivals 2004 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 NBa Live 2003 Crimson Skies - High Road to Revenge Amped - Freestyle snowboarding Amped 2 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Crash Bandicoot - The Wrath of Cortex MechAssault Top spin Project Gotham Racing
These are the ones I can find.
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Having played it, I would not allow my theorhetical 13-year-old to play the game. Then again, I don't allow my kids to say the word 'stupid.' :shrug:
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We have Splinter Cell as well-- it is violent.
However, the atmosphere in which violence takes place is different from Fable. In Fable, it is possible to glorify evil. In SC, that's not really a possibility, since if you shoot a civilian, you fail the mission, and you have to start the mission over. In Fable, the objectives are open-ended and to some extant, player driven. In SC, the game follows a plot designed by the 'good guys.'
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NFL Blitz Pro -Wrestling mixed with Football. I'm surprised you let him have it.
NHL Rivals 2004 -regular stupid football. Okay.
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 -lotta blood and half naked chicks.
NBa Live 2003 -Stupid Basketball. Okay.
Crimson Skies - High Road to Revenge - OH MAN! THAT GAME IS FRIGGIN AWESOME! DOG FIGHTS IN PLANES! Awesome. THIS is an OKAY game.
Amped - Freestyle snowboarding - Okay
Amped 2 -Okay
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell -Wow. And you're worried about Fable? This game is like "I'ma sneak up behind this guy and slit his throat."
Crash Bandicoot - The Wrath of Cortex -Omg, I hated this game. But ok, none the less.
MechAssault -About as violent as Fable.
Top spin -Not familiar with it. But it sounds okay.
Project Gotham Racing -Steal a car and race it. Ok. I can see why a protective mother likes her kid to have this game.
I see no reason why you shouldn't let him have Fable. But keep in mind, It's only for Xbox. So if he doesn't have one of those, might as well just stop here.
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Turgan, I do agree with your review on Tony Hawk. I don’t care for the blood flying and skimpily clad girls. It cheapens the game.
I do like Crimson Skies. In fact it reminds us of the new Sky Captain movie. I do recall though some "morning after" innuendos in that game. Am I right?
I don’t have a problem with NFL Blitz Pro. Football is a hairy, scary sport! Who was it this past weekend that got injured to the point of removal by ambulance from the field.
I’m going to check out Splinter Cell and MechAssault.
Crash Bandicoot was my buy. My 11-year old daughter is the main player. I happen to like that game.
quote: Project Gotham Racing -Steal a car and race it. Ok. I can see why a protective mother likes her kid to have this game.
He's got a pretty good idea at 13 what he should and shouldn't do. I don't think this game is going to make him want to go steal a car and race it.
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Quote: He's got a pretty good idea at 13 what he should and shouldn't do. I don't think this game is going to make him want to go steal a car and race it.
If he's got a pretty good idea what he should and shouldn't do... then why are you sensoring his games? Are you saying Fable and SC are gonna make him want to kill people? Buy him Fable. And mom didn't have too much of a chance to sensor me. I moved to Dads.
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Just because he's learning right from wrong and is doing quite well deciphering between the two doesn't mean that the world should be open to him at the tender age of 13.
I have a lot of faith in this kid. That doesn’t mean that I’m going to tell him “okay kiddo…go for it”. He’s 13, not 18. He’s got a lot of maturing to do.
My 16 year old son went to live with his father when he was 14. I’m sure he feels the same way you do in many ways, except I know this kid still loves me. He knows his dad and I have completely different values. He couldn’t handle it when I remarried and he needed his father for awhile. I did “mother” him, to much I think. He was my first, my trial, so to speak.
He’s a good kid as well! I don’t have any bad kids. I still call him every other day and bug the hell out of him on the phone. I believe it’s my prerogative. I would think if I didn’t do what I did, then it would appear to him that I didn’t care. But I do…maybe sometimes excessively.
It’s not easy being a parent.
Get back to me when you’ve walked in my shoes for awhile.
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Actually, that probably IS the best solution. Rent it and play it yourself. Then decide from there.
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IMO, the most objectionable thing about Fable is the game's invitation to show evil as attractive.
Example (SPOILERS)
At one point in the game, you are walking through a dark, swampy area, and the Guild Master informs you that the temple of Skorm is somewhere in this area. At the temple of Skorm, he says, they will lead you to new depths of evil. So you can go to this temple, and meet with acolytes who tell you to bring people to the temple to sacrifice to Skorm.
At another point in the game, you're walking through a dark, foresty area, and the Guild Master informs you that the god Avo has his temple here. Avo, as far as I can tell thus far in the game, is the Good deity. He warns you that you have to be cautious because Avo is somewhat fickle. At the temple of Avo, you can give gold to earn 'good points.'
The warning for the temple of Skorm is just that the deity will make you more evil; the warning for Avo is that the deity himself is fickle.
Take into account this as well-- much of the marketing is geared toward letting players know that their characters can be evil. The cover of the game shows a young boy looking into a pool of water, and his reflection is that of an evil warrior. The game's opening sequence contain images of the character you can become-- but most of the images are of characters who have become evil.
Even though I enjoy the game, I'm distinctly uncomfortable with the type of image they're portraying. I don't think the game itself takes the 'evil is cool' thing very far-- theorhetically, if you really do become evil, you loose a lot of capacity to interact with the civilizations in the game. But the marketing is there, pushing that meme on players.
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