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Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged
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So yeah...exactly what Rakeesh said..
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Portabello
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Wow. That's some pretty awesome retcon. I'll have to read it.
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Palpatine only reveals himself as a Sith Lord to the Jedi-whom he then murders, kills, and discredits as revolutionaries who are plotting a coup.
See, Palpatine goes all sithish in various public places, Including the senate. If Vader gets caught on camera killing the jedi, how does Palpatine get away with trashing the senate? And further, if the Jedi are the respected protectors of the galaxy for thousands of years, why would everyone immediately accept Palpatine's word of a jedi plot and agree to the death of hundreds of Jedi?If there is no footage of Palpatine's sithishness then neither is there any proof of a jedi plot.
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Don't forget that many of them were corrupt anyway.
True, but in a democracy the senators must maintain the illusion of respectability. Also, at least one senator- Bail Organa, knows that Palpatine is a sith. In a bickering republic such as we are shown with Maverick trade unions and so on there is simply no way that Palpatine has enough firepower available to cow all of the many planets into submission. We are shown a republic with weak central authority in the Phantom menace and attack of the clones. The clone army gives them a bit of clout, but even the separatists with their disposable droids are essentially a match for the clones.

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Mace Windu had Palpatine on his heels because Palpatine knew Anakin would come storming in. Only by appearing to be what he looked like-a man only barely, barely holding his own against the Jedi who is determined to murder (not really, since a Sith Lord or a Jedi for that matter is never really unarmed, but it appeared to be murder) only by looking like that could he get Anakin to kill a Jedi.
I don't buy it. Did Palpatine also purposely melt himself into a really ugly looking monster? That would be a big hit against any political effectiveness.

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The Seperatists you'll notice are all non-human beings. This is one of the numerous things I wish Lucas had spent a little time mentioning. The Empire we see in the OT is very human-biased. Aliens are scum and not to be trusted.
Right, and Palpatine supposedly hates all non-humans. Yet his trusted advisors are all non-humans. Further, the separatists serve a very useful political end. They can be trotted out as the bad guys any time Palpatine needs to engineer a crisis. It makes absolutely no sense to discard a tool which you control so completely.

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Anakin may not have appeared totally implausible to them as the new apprentice because, after all, Count Dooku was once a Jedi, too.
This I can almost buy, but the paranoid separatists clearly don't trust Sidious completely and always have a fair number of guards around. Yet they are completely unprotected when ANakin arrives.

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The Jedi cannot withstand the clone betrayl for a couple of reasons. First of all, the clones are better soldiers than the droids anyway. Second, the Jedi have been fighting with the clones for many years, building up trust. And the Jedi were unable to detect any betrayl at all, because the command was subconcious.
Yeah, I can buy it for the Jedi who were caught unaware, but what about the jedi at the temple and the jedi that became aware of the plot before they were killed? Presumably even Anakin is no match for 50 or 60 jedi at once (since even a single jedi master- obi wan, is more than a match for him.)

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And you might be relieved to know that eventually, the Jedi get over their collective hangup about emotional repression.
They had to, eventually. Luke is the last jedi and he certainly only seems to get anything done when he is pissed off.
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