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I think Tom's unflappability is likely psychotic over compensation for the fact that he has a really hot wife and adorable children.
Edited to note: It is particularly unfortunate that this post is at the top of a page since it really isn't a stand alone sort of post,
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Jon Boy, I am not interested in having this discussion with you. I tried to ignore it, and finally answered out of courtesy because you pressed. However, that's it.
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quote:Originally posted by katharina: Jon Boy, I am not interested in having this discussion with you. I tried to ignore it, and finally answered out of courtesy because you pressed. However, that's it.
I can't say I'm surprised. You're never interested in having this conversation with anyone.
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quote:Originally posted by katharina: I don't get it, Noemon.
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I looked it up. I've even read that book.
It's from Bladerunner. I was specifically thinking of what happens beginning at 2:52 in this clip
I suppose that technically the voight-kampff test isn't psychoanalysis, but still. "Tell me, in single words, only the positive things that come to mind about...your mother" always makes me think of psychoanalysis. And I can't think of many ways to more effectively express one's unwillingness to be analyzed than what Leon does.
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quote:Originally posted by katharina: ? What's with the hostility?
It's not hostility—it's frustration. You get in these big blow-ups with people again and again, and it's the same thing every time. You never accept responsibility for your actions or allow yourself to be criticized and scrutinized the way you criticize the other party involved. You always shut down the conversation, whether it's by simply ignoring it, saying "I am not interested in having this conversation with you", or calling it "the howling of jackals". A lot of people are really tired of it, but nothing's going to change as long as you refuse to admit that you're doing anything wrong.
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The thing with psychoanalyzing people is that pretty much all of us are doing it, whether we discuss it or not. Humans are social animals, and so we have theories about the way other people's minds work. This can lead to problems when assumptions are wrong, but on the whole I'd say it's good. It allows me to predict how someone will react to something I say, and thus I can (often) avoid saying something that will provoke a reaction I did not intend.
It's true that stating your theories about why someone does what they do can be used as a weapon. Suggesting certain arguments are the result of bigotry, irrational fear, or wishful thinking can be an effective tactic. On the other hand, if someone has an uncharitable and incorrect interpretation of my motives, it might be best to get it out in the open so I can correct it. And sometimes people might point out a flaw I hadn't noticed in myself, allowing me to fix it. So as long as it's not being done to try to discredit an argument I'm making or merely to hurt my feelings, I think that if you have a strong opinion about my motives, you might as well say it.
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Jon Boy, what would possibly possess you to imagine that would be you. You can go stand in the corner over there with S and O and we'll talk again when I decide it is worth it.
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I demand that you remove all references to me from your cerebral cortex, and continue to be oblivious to my corporeal existence in perpetuity throughout the universe.
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Shigosei, I love your post. That's exactly how I feel about it, too. Especially in a forum where so many people want to write.
As for this:
quote: Suggesting certain arguments are the result of bigotry, irrational fear, or wishful thinking can be an effective tactic.
I think it might work better if we did like real shrinks and asked more questions instead of telling people what we think they're saying. But maybe that's because there are few things in life that make me angrier than being told what to think or how to feel.
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*wry laugh* God help me, Katie, that last post was something I'd expect from Orincoro doing a parody of you.
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quote:Originally posted by katharina: Jon Boy, what would possibly possess you to imagine that would be you. You can go stand in the corner over there with S and O and we'll talk again when I decide it is worth it.
Kat, I think you may have just proved Jon Boy's point.
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Let me play devil's advocate for a second. What if katharina actually IS so much more mature, wise, and patient than the rest of us, so from her perspective, we do deserve to be put in the corner and told to shut up and suck a duck. Maybe the rest of us just don't understand the deep thoughts and great deeds brewing in her extra-expansive cranium and dwelling deep in her old soul.
You know what though, by figuring this out, I think I've just moved up to her level. I'm in the big league now, Pleebs. Oh, I was right. You DO all look like ants from up here!
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I think this thread has outlived its usefulness. I got some valuable feedback from a number of people whose opinions I respect and I appreciate your willingness to be frank with me.
But despite how its turned out, I never wanted this thread to be about kat. Its largely my fault that it took this turn and I regret it.
I'm not going to delete the thread because I think that's disrespectful to all the people who posted. I thought about asking Papa to lock the thread. But instead, I'm just goiing to ask people to let this the thread die.
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quote:Originally posted by Orincoro: STAY AWAY FROM OUR CORNER!
Before this thread dies, I just want to say that if I hadn't already been 'regulated' to this corner, I would have figured I was doing something wrong. Heh.
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