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This is driving me insane, I'm sitting here listening to The Planets, Mars section and my brain is constantly associating all sorts of very vague visual memories with it, clearly a movie, popular movie, uses music from this and I can't place it at all. Someone help!
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Hobbes, I can't think of any movie that specifically uses Mars (although several use Jupiter). However, LOTS of movies (and I mean TONS) use Mars-like and Holst-like scores.
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Star Wars leaps to mind as one with a very "Marsesqe" theme. The Imperial March, if I'm remembering correctly, sounds like something from one of Holst's demo tapes.
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I'm thinking Star Destroyers. An early scene with Star Destroyers. Don't quote me on that, but that's what leaps to mind when I "play" Mars in my head.
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Gladiator is one that has Holst-like scoring and themes. The music in Gladiator is actually by the same pairing that did the music for The Pirates of the Caribbean, Klaus Badelt and Hans Zimmer.
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I think you might possibly just be thinking of movie scores that have been influenced by The Planets. John Williams, in Star Wars and several others of his scores, was obviously stronly influenced by it. In fact, every time I listen to Mars, I catch myself thinking, "This guy ripped Williams off!"
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It's probably in that movie where someone said "it doesn't do anything, that's the beauty of it!"
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That's funny, UofU Whenever I listen to Williams (whom I love, don't get me wrong), I think..."Wagner...Holst...Wagner...Strauss...Holst...Oh, that was Stravinsky! Nifty!...Wagner...Holst..."
I love him. His styles are all borrowed out the yin-yang, but I still love him.
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Guaranteed "Mars" isn't in Star Wars. Ever. Anywhere. At all.
I found much of the same IMDb stuff, but will add three listings: New Guy (2003), Company (2002), and Mr. 3000, surprisingly enough... Apparently it's also in Full Metal Ninja (1988). Somehow, I've managed to miss that movie.
Another site tells me that it was the theme to the TV series "Quartermass," and in the movie How to Get Ahead in Advertising.
Finally, from what I've found, it was also featured in one of the X2: X-Men United trailers.
I know I've heard it other places, though... I'll keep thinking about it.
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I think people were trying to say that Williams's work for Star Wars was heavily influenced by Mars (and Holst in general).
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Hobbes, "heavily influenced by" is the musicologically nicey-nice way of saying "ripped off." There's a whole sub-discipline in theory/musicology about borrowing and influence of styles, though.
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Yup, tons of musicians have...er...borrowed heavily from the Planets. Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan shows this, Star Wars shows this, Aliens has some, Gladiator has some, etc. Not just from the Mars movement, but from the whole work (which is so nice to see every year at outdoor pavilian...ahhhh). Holst was the bomb, literrally. They say with "Mars Bringer of War" he brought WW1 home to people who never experienced it first hand (and he hadn't, either). But he communicated the bombast, the noise, the dread and even some say the german machine guns with his soundscape. Great stuff.
Oh, and it was used in an early X-Men 2 trailer as well.
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Actually I think that Brian May's soundtrack to Mad Max and Road Warrior is very similar to Mars. Maybe that is what you are thinking of.
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