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Is it true or untrue that Treason is a part of the Enderverse? I couldn't get this thought out of my head as I read Treason, simply because the idea of Starways Congress (or any other government) from Ender's Story banishing it's enemies to some place like Treason is so feasible.
Also, I think the name Treason for a planet fits well with the way planets are named in the Ender books.
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If Ender's Game is a fair indication of the level of scientific realism of the other Ender novels, then I don't see how Treason could fit in with them, since all the special powers of people in Treason seem more outlandish and mystical than anything in Ender's Game. Maybe one could make them fit together by changing the writing style of one or the other.
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In Xenocide and Children of the Mind, the characters manage to travel instantaneously, a feat regarded as impossible by most people nowadays. To characters who didn't understand the means by which they traveled, it must have seemed as though Peter and the others were just teleporting by magic. Why couldn't the people on Treason just have unlocked another secret of the universe?
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I agree with Omega, the books were written way too differently for there to have been an intended relationship.
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Actually, OSC plans to do an "Asimov" late in life and tie all of his stories together in one huge Orson-Scott-Cardiverse.
But, just to show that he's really, really good at this stuff, he's also going to make it link up to the Foundation and Robot stories too.
I'm still trying to figure out how the women of the Bible series and the novelization of The Abyss will be worked in, but I suspect Columbus will come into play somehow.
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--------------HUGE SPOILER ALERT------------------- DO NOT CONTINUE IF YOU ARE OSC, RELATED TO OSC, HAVE READ OSC'S BOOKS, OR INTEND TO READ OSC'S BOOKS.
Okay, here's the sequence, as revealed by my rummaging through the Card family's trash can last Tuesday morning:
1) Ender series and all the Shadow Books. Take us into the near future. 2) Homecoming series fast forwards us through a huge expanse of time and human evolution. Nestled in here are all the shorter series, some of the single-novel items, and most of the short stories. Sorry I don't have time to go into all the details. Trust me, it all works out. 3) Alvin Maker series. The weird historical tie-ins that seem to hearkin "backward" in US history are just flukes. This all really takes place after humans wipe out the other sentient species, AGAIN, and is set way, way in the future. Look for this exciting denoument in a future Alvin book. 4) Pastwatch and Women of the Bible. It turns out that these bring us full circle and that, really, EVERYTHING up to now in the Cardiverse has taken place in the far distant past, and we're only just now getting to the present day. From which point... 5) The Ender series is a jumping off point to (see #1).
If the whole time sequence thing seems funny, just remember, it's a paradox. In fact, it's more of a quadadox. We're left dazed and confused, but, strangely, satisfied with the whole thing.
Oh, and the surprise linkup to Asimov's robot and Foundation novels is as follows: There's this statistician/psychologist/android, see, let us, for the sake of argument call him/it "Bob," and, well...you'll just have to read the book.
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The powers in Treason do nto seem outlandish if you had a world with one of them, but to have like seven seperate powers develop and each from a single individual who had a slight tendency suggests a sort of Intellegent Design maybe in Treason II we find out the planet is self aware and guiding all this and our hero is the new prophet of that World Entity.
quote:Originally posted by Bob_Scopatz: Actually, OSC plans to do an "Asimov" late in life and tie all of his stories together in one huge Orson-Scott-Cardiverse.
But, just to show that he's really, really good at this stuff, he's also going to make it link up to the Foundation and Robot stories too.
I'm still trying to figure out how the women of the Bible series and the novelization of The Abyss will be worked in, but I suspect Columbus will come into play somehow.
Now THAT is cool.
Btw any books ever written explaining what happens (in regards to Galaxia) after Empire and Earth?
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Actually, the real plan is to tie in every hatrack comment made into a novel. Can't wait for that one...
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Oh, I just started to take it as a very good rumour, thinking about sharing it- but since I see the joke chopped off Bob's head and left it laughing on the board... hmm... I guess I don't want to follow Bob's example with *my* head there.
That's much better story. A joke that chopps (gram?) people's heads.
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quote:Originally posted by Bob_Scopatz: Actually, OSC plans to do an "Asimov" late in life and tie all of his stories together in one huge Orson-Scott-Cardiverse.
But, just to show that he's really, really good at this stuff, he's also going to make it link up to the Foundation and Robot stories too.
I'm still trying to figure out how the women of the Bible series and the novelization of The Abyss will be worked in, but I suspect Columbus will come into play somehow.
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Faulkner? Why couldn't you include a bit of Dumas too, Uncle O? Imagine it: It turns out in the end that D'Artagan is actually the Trillionth incarnation of Ender. You'd make millions.
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