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Vamp96
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I wonder if OSC has a church calling. I think it would be difficult with his busy schedule. Can you imagine OSC as your bishop? How weird would that be [Smile] ?
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I'd be really surprised if he didn't, especially in Greensboro, NC.
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Vamp96
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I bet there are some thought provoking discussions in his Sunday school class.
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Stake play director?

Gospel doctrine teacher with a regular sub?

No! 12-13 year old Sunday School teacher! [Big Grin]

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How about:

Ward historian or bulletin specialist

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I am sure he is at least a Home Teacher. He probably couldn't do any worse than anyone else with that calling.
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His current calling is ward and stake cultural arts director. That means he does cultural events such as plays, concerts, poetry readings, etc. Right now he is in the middle of directing Romeo and Juliet -- complete with great sword fights!

And he's a home teacher.

But he has held every calling mentioned in the previous posts in the past, except bishop. He was first counselor in a bishopric.

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Ooh, I was close!

I wonder how that youth SS class went? [Big Grin]

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OK, tell a non-Mormon. Does "church calling" mean something special in LDS? I'm assuming it means a calling from God to do something in the church. But in that case, every believer has a church calling.
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I'm assuming it means a calling from God to do something in the church.
That's right. It's his "job" at church, his position or assignment. The LDS church has almost no paid ministry, so everything is done by the lay members, and it is expected that every member will participate. They are asked or "called" to do a particular work for a time. Then they'll be released from that calling and given another calling or assignment. Which is how OSC has held "every calling mentioned in the previous posts in the past, except bishop."
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Do these guys wear robes? Scott would look cool in a robe.
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No robes.
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Ok, I understand very little about Mormonism. I was raised Southern baptist, and my dad's side of the family is Jewish, so I did go to church and temple. So Mormons do call their places of worship Temples. Can someone point me to a website to where I can understand why they do certain rites such as why the preacher or bishop or council before you get married has to inspect both parties in the nude. Do the Mormons respect Baptists, Jews, or the Amish? If I keep saying I belong to church, such as a baptist church, will they accept I am being saved and not preach to me? Do Mormons baptisize infants, or do they accept that it's the person's decision to decide when they will get baptisized? How do Mormons look on animal care? Is it ok to keep a pet ?
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Scott R
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Can someone point me to a website to where I can understand why they do certain rites such as why the preacher or bishop or council before you get married has to inspect both parties in the nude.
Mormons don't do this.

You can find out more about Mormon beliefs at http://www.lds.org and http://www.mormon.org.

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So Mormons do call their places of worship Temples.
Temples are different from churches. We normally worship in churches; Temples are reserved for marriages and other work-- these links provide a good understanding of what their purpose is.

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Do the Mormons respect Baptists, Jews, or the Amish?
As people, yes. As religions, that's a trickier answer.

What do you mean, 'respect?'

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If I keep saying I belong to church, such as a baptist church, will they accept I am being saved and not preach to me?
Well, if you tell them (assuming you're talking to the missionaries) that you're not interested in hearing their message, they SHOULD leave you alone. Until the next bunch of missonaries comes through...

The Mormon faith is an exclusive one-- in other words, we believe that no other Church has the authority to perform saving ordinances (such as baptism). Converts to Mormonism must all be rebaptised because of this.

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Do Mormons baptisize infants, or do they accept that it's the person's decision to decide when they will get baptisized?

Mormons do not practice infant baptisms. We believe that children are sinless, and that they are all saved through Christ's atonement. When a child begins to reach the age of accountability (we've determined that the age is 8 years old) and begins to act for himself, then baptism is warranted.

That's the short answer...

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How do Mormons look on animal care? Is it ok to keep a pet ?
Lots of Mormons have pets. My family does not, unless you count Shelby the Hermit Crab.
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Scott, thanks, as usual, for patiently answering questions... [Smile]
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Scott R
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You're welcome.

My pleasure.

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I think Mormons are one of the few Western Religions that believe animals have eternal souls as part of its teachings. Joseph Smith didn't believe ALL the animal-like figures of Heaven in the book of Revelations, for instance, were only symbolic. What this should translate into, but doesn't always, is a healthy respect for animals and nature.
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If Joseph Smith though cats and dogs are up. Then he sounds fine to me. I hate anyone who is an animal abuser.
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Thank you Scott.
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why they do certain rites such as why the preacher or bishop or council before you get married has to inspect both parties in the nude.
[ROFL]

This has GOT to be the funniest false rumor about Mormons that I have EVER read.

And as far as the pets thing, not only can you HAVE pets, but you get to see them again in the next life. Although I have noticed that Mormons here in the East seem more likely to have pets, particularly house dogs, than Mormons from out West having a farm/ranch upbringing. (Many of our missionaries from places like Montana and Idaho are surprised that we have big dogs in the house, permit them up on the couch, put them on a down-stay before prayers, etc.) But that's a cultural difference, not a religious one.

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"Mormons here in the East seem more likely to have pets, particularly house dogs, than Mormons from out West having a farm/ranch upbringing."

This is not entirely true. In fact, its not true. The difference is not that Mormons in the West don't have pets. Dogs and to a lesser degree cats are everywhere. The biggest difference, I think, is that pets and animals are considered to be kept outside. Rarely are they to be inside for any length of time unless the weather is extreme. The smaller the animal, the more likely it will be a house pet. I think part of this comes from the idea of space. Idaho and Montana have lots of it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Yozhik:
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why they do certain rites such as why the preacher or bishop or council before you get married has to inspect both parties in the nude.
[ROFL]

This has GOT to be the funniest false rumor about Mormons that I have EVER read.

darnit, and that was the big reason for my converting.

so what religion can i find where the WILL inspect me in the nude?

wait wait wait... why would the person inspecting be in the nude? or have i got something wrong here.

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I have heard a version of the nude rumour before, but a little but worse. Supposedly after marriage, you have to prove you are a virgin by doing the deed in front of temple workers (you don't actually have to be a virgin to get married in the temple). Also, supposedly in the temple, we bathe in consecrated oil. And we dig up bodies and bring them to the temple to be baptized then return them. And of course, we have many wives. And horns on our heads. Personally, I think the funniest is the dead body one.
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Scott R
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The Lutheran school in the little Wisconsin town I lived in had a speaker teach that Mormons had horns and couldn't drink milk.

It's one thing to read about it or hear about it-- quite another when people start staring at your head oddly.

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Supposedly after marriage, you have to prove you are a virgin by doing the deed in front of temple workers
I heard how this one got started!

During one of the temple open houses (DC Temple I think) one of the members leading the tours for visitors was a sweet but confused elderly lady. When showing visitors the sealing rooms, she would point out the altar where couples kneel together to consecrate their marriage...

The only problem was that this sweet elderly sister confused the word "consecrate" with the word "consummate."

I'm not making this up, I swear.

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I wonder if OSC has a church calling
Sister Card already answered this one, but someone else asked what it was like in his sunday school class...

Brother Card is a great teacher, someone you can learn a great deal from every time you bump into him, and he's hilarious, so that helps [Razz] I think he was also Young Men's president, unless my brain just farted out on me.
I enjoyed his Sunday school class so much that I kept sneaking back into it even after I had aged out.. And if I remember correctly, A certain Jack / Marley / Back Bench columnist followed him in that calling, and i snuck back in for a couple of his lessons too.
OSC is also a great director, he demands a lot from his actors, but only puts the pressure on where and when it will bring improvement. And he will never let you look bad on stage.

That having been said, it must also be mentioned that Sister Card is a great teacher as well. And patient enough to put up with snotty ole' 15 year old me at 6am in Seminary class, which is a feat in and of itself.

While I'm at it, Geoff can teach you a lot about filmmaking if you'll just ask, and Emily can teach you a lot about..well..damn near everything now that I think of it. She's a great vocal coach, as is OSC, and she can accompany you too. And don't play the Kevin Bacon game against her. It's like playing poker against a guy named 'Doc' (Prior Restraint reference, look it up).

All I can say is, if ya get the chance, have a conversation with one of them, because you'll learn a lot.

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Ok, so before you get married you get blessed. But not in the nude or anything.
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Robin Kaczmarczyk
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Any religion intolerant of other religions does not function as a religion, because religion comes from 'religare' or to 'join'...

Sadly, almost all religions are intolerant of other religions.

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Robin Kaczmarczyk
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BTW. Pagans practice Nude Weddings.
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i practice nude weddings. i have to be ready for the real thing.
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why the preacher or bishop or council before you get married has to inspect both parties in the nude.
Where did the whole "inspection in the nude" shenanigans come from?

I am married and I've never heard this one.

Shoot, I'm in the military and believe you me, "nude inspection" is not the kind of phrase one wants to hear in the AM.
[Angst] [Eek!] [Razz] [Big Grin]

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BTW. Pagans practice Nude Weddings
So do Betazoids on Star trek TNG
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Any religion intolerant of other religions does not function as a religion, because religion comes from 'religare' or to 'join'...

Doesn't follow.

Heck, it doesn't even fallow.

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Nude Weddings? A Temple Bride has an extra robe and vail over top of her more traditional wedding dress. They are twice as covered as the brides on TV. Just as pretty though.
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At the pagan wedding I went to, everyone was fully clothed. As far as whether or not the dress was as pretty as a traditional dress, the bride had not had it tailored to fit her body so it hung a little funny. Other than that, it was a ver pretty dress.
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what exactly does it take to make a wedding pagan? is it merely a agnostic wedding? a non-christian wedding? believe in multiple dieties? belief in nature as god?
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quote:
Originally posted by odouls268:
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All I can say is, if ya get the chance, have a conversation with one of them, because you'll learn a lot.

Wow...I'm so envious [Smile] . They sound like an awesome family. Any ward would be lucky to have them.
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pagan is like the word christian, it means many things to many different people. i have quite a few friends who are pagan and almost none of them believe in the same thing....... its very hard to explain hell i dont even completely understand it and as for pagan weddings or handfastings as they are called it is not always done in the nude unless you run across a person who believes that their rituals and stuff must be preformed nude as well...... and these people are few and far between. now there are a few pagans that just for shits and giggles will get married in the nude but it is not because anything says they have to they do it intirely just to be able to look back and laugh.

See most pagans i have found have a very large sense of humor. They like making remarks about "riding brooms and making potions in caldrons with puppy dog tails and eye of newt" just to get a laugh from the people around them that know them.

Or this is what i have found Anyways

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