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Nathan2006
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I was just wondering. I know OSC was kind of pulling for her (I'm referring to a review of War of the Worlds.)
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The problem is that if Dakota Fanning is in a movie, she has to be the lead child actor in it. It would be weird to have a bunch of unknowns playing the lead roles, and then to stick her in a semi-important role.

But she's certainly not too old, considering they were going to make Ender a little bit older than in the book, and Petra was older than Ender, and Dakota Fanning can look so young. I mean how old was Fern supposed to be? Nine?

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Whoah, that totally destroys my imagined version of Petra. I imagined a dark haired, olive complexion for Petra. She's Armenian isn't she? Dakota Fanning is not my first choice, although she is a great child actor.
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Considering that by the time an Enders Game movie is made, she might not even be a teenager anymore, I'll say that she's way too old.
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I agree that she will be to old. The issue is here, how do you find talented children without exploiting them. Perhaps CGI or even altering the story a bit to use children that are a bit older. I personally feel she would have been great for the part, but by the time it hits the can she will be well beyond the window.

I think this issue is what would make it a difficult movie to put on the screen. The age of the soldiers has a large impact on the story. The age of the children make it very difficult to cast. I will wait with baited breath.

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I just hope they don't go the cg rout. It might work depending upon how they do it, but it usually doesn’t work.
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A CGI/Anime production for Ender's Game has generally been dismissed for the reason that it would seem more like a children's movie, and it isn't.
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STOP TALKING ABOUT WHO WILL BE CAST IN THE ENDERS GAME MOVIE THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH!!! BESIDES GRAFF WHO IS OLD ANYWAYS ALL OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE USELESS!!! GRRR sorry needed to vent that, these forums go round and round the cgi topic the generals having a gender switch Rosie O donnal as someone blah just cut it out
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Stop reading threads about who will be cast in the Ender's Game movie. [Razz]
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well perhaps the reason it gets beaten to death is its a fun excercise. Some of us are new to the forum and haven't yet had the chance to get it out of our systems.

On that note, I really hope they don't make it too americentric and keep plenty of charachters of different ethnicity.

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Maybe they can do an animation rendition like A Scanner Darkly? Then they could cast kids and do voice overs, and it would be easier to do battle room scenes?

War Chief you don't have to read the thread.

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El JT de Spang
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Just like you newbs don't have to make use of the 'search' button.

Ain't free will great?

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rivka
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Be nice, JT. [No No]

War Chief, if those of us who have been here far longer than you (and have seen a great many "casting EG" threads -- even participated in a few) can tolerate 'em, you have no excuse.

Anyway, not reading threads that don't interest you is excellent advice.

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Actually, I kinda liked JT's response. [Razz]
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I say just use the whole cast of Smallville in it. Tom Welling as Ender, Kristin Kreuk as Petra, John Glover as Graff, and so forth.
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As long as they cast Dwayne Johnson as Bean, I don't care who else they cast.
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I was hoping for Carmen Electra as Ender.... if you get to pick the rock, why not?
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Now you're just being silly. [Roll Eyes]
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For the last time, the ONLY viable cast list for EG:

Ender: Paul Newman
Peter: Ben Affleck
Valentine: Mandy Moore
Graff: Nathan Lane
J.P. Wiggin: John Cusack
T.H. Wiggin: Joan Cusack
Anderson: John Travolta
Bean: Actually, Dwayne Johnson is a great idea.
Petra: Haley Joel Osmond
Mazer Rackham: John C. McGinley
Alai: Denzel Washington
Shen: Daniel Dae Kim
Bonzo: Luis Guzman
Han Tzu: Chow Yun Fat
Crazy Tom: Adam Brody
Dink: Benjamin McKenzie
Fly Molo: Dante Basco
Bugger Queen: Bea Arthur

There is no room for argument

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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
For the last time, the ONLY viable cast list for EG:

Ender: Paul Newman
Peter: Ben Affleck
Valentine: Mandy Moore
Graff: Nathan Lane
J.P. Wiggin: John Cusack
T.H. Wiggin: Joan Cusack
Anderson: John Travolta
Bean: Actually, Dwayne Johnson is a great idea.
Petra: Haley Joel Osmond
Mazer Rackham: John C. McGinley
Alai: Denzel Washington
Shen: Daniel Dae Kim
Bonzo: Luis Guzman
Han Tzu: Chow Yun Fat
Crazy Tom: Adam Brody
Dink: Benjamin McKenzie
Fly Molo: Dante Basco
Bugger Queen: Bea Arthur

There is no room for argument

Sorry, but Peter has to be Zach Braff.
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erosomniac
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I can see it now.

I was beginning to get irritated that my parents only ever noticed Ender. But I'm going to be the better person, and not take it out on him.

"I could kill you right now, and no one would know! BWAHAHAHAHA!"

...damn.

<stock sad music>

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quote:
The problem is that if Dakota Fanning is in a movie, she has to be the lead child actor in it. It would be weird to have a bunch of unknowns playing the lead roles, and then to stick her in a semi-important role.

I thought it was hilarious that Lindsay Lohan got top billing in A Prairie Home Companion, when she was not the lead, although she had a "semi-important role", and she was acting with the likes of Lily Tomlin and MERYL STREEP. Yeah.
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I actually think Fly Molo should be played by Meatwad, in a special animated appearance.

Otherwise, that cast looks good to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
I can see it now.

I was beginning to get irritated that my parents only ever noticed Ender. But I'm going to be the better person, and not take it out on him.

"I could kill you right now, and no one would know! BWAHAHAHAHA!"

...damn.

<stock sad music>

dada da da di da da daaaaah, dada da da di da da daaaaah.
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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
I can see it now.

I was beginning to get irritated that my parents only ever noticed Ender. But I'm going to be the better person, and not take it out on him.

"I could kill you right now, and no one would know! BWAHAHAHAHA!"

...damn.

<stock sad music>

That was beautiful.

"I can't win this war on my own
No I know -- I'm no superman"

[ January 25, 2007, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: Lisa ]

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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
For the last time, the ONLY viable cast list for EG:

Ender: Paul Newman
Peter: Ben Affleck
Valentine: Mandy Moore
Graff: Nathan Lane
J.P. Wiggin: John Cusack
T.H. Wiggin: Joan Cusack
Anderson: John Travolta
Bean: Actually, Dwayne Johnson is a great idea.
Petra: Haley Joel Osmond
Mazer Rackham: John C. McGinley
Alai: Denzel Washington
Shen: Daniel Dae Kim
Bonzo: Luis Guzman
Han Tzu: Chow Yun Fat
Crazy Tom: Adam Brody
Dink: Benjamin McKenzie
Fly Molo: Dante Basco
Bugger Queen: Bea Arthur

There is no room for argument

I still say a Robin Williams one-man show is the way to go.
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You can never go wrong with a Robin Williams one-man show.
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If by 'never' you mean 'always'.
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Yeah. I get those mixed up.
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The bugger queen should be played by rosie odonnel.
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quote:
Originally posted by El JT de Spang:
If by 'never' you mean 'always'.

And if by "you" you mean "him."

quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
Yeah. I always get those mixed up.

Fixed that for him.
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[Razz]
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You mean, There's a search button? Or is that like the mysterious Staples 'Easy' button?


PS: I actually like the idea of Joan Cusack as Ender's mom... I *loved* her work in 'Loony Toons: Back in Action. Not, but seriously, She's awesome!!! I did a search for her on netflix and got all her movies (Right after Barbra Streisand). Who's John Cusack? Husband, brother, uncle, what?

PPS: The reason I included a 'PS' was because I found the content in the beginning of my post especially clever, and almost posted it by itself.

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quote:
Who's John Cusack? Husband, brother, uncle, what?

Fie! Fie on you! John Cusack was brilliant in Better Off Dead ("I want my two dollars! I want my two dollars!" "Oh man, you know the street value of this stuff?"), Serendipity, High Fidelity, Being John Malkovich, Grosse Pointe Blank (seriously hilarious movie), Identity, and so so so so many more.

I'm secretly in love with him. *shh!* Please don't tell my husband!

And yeah, Joan Cusack is his sister, and she's pretty funny in her own right. I loved her as his secretary in Grosse Pointe Blank. [Big Grin] Oh man, I wanna see that movie again!

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Say Anything!

(After Better Off Dead, most classic John Cusack movie. And Joan's in it too, in a small role as his...sister.)

I, too, harbor feelings for him. Perhaps my longest-running celebrity crush, since I think Rob Lowe has been kind of icky for a while now.

Is there really not a role for Lindsay Lohan in this movie????

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I need to see Better Off Dead again. [Big Grin] It was so hilarious. [Big Grin]
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John Cusack's best movie is High Fidelity.

But he's good in everything.

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Back to the topic that started the thread. I think Dakotah Fanning would be great as Valentine. Valentine is older than ender, so an older Dakotah wouldn't matter. Plus Dakotah is absolutley believable as a compassionate person. Just imagine the scene of Valentine/Dakotah coming across Peter's eviscerated squirrel in the woods.

Of course for all I know Peter and Val were cut completely out of the script.

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Dakota Fanning seems too cute and girly for Petra. Valentine, maybe.

Incidentally, has anyone else always pictured Petra with a shaved (or nearly shaved) head?

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Why would Petra need a shaved head?
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I picture Petra with short hair but not shaved, or nearly shaved. Actually I always pictured the Graff to have shaved head while everyone else have medium or long hair, with Petra with the shortest.
I don't know why though, seemed to fit well.

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I've always pictured Petra with hair resembling Hermione's. It makes no sense--the book specifically mentions she's indistinguishable from a boy, except she's missing some equipment, and hair that long is a nuisance in a combat setting (esp. in zero-G!)--but there you go.

quote:
John Cusack's best movie is High Fidelity.

But he's good in everything.

Amen. Hornby's best book, Cusack's best movie.
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Yeah, she would be a better Valentine, in my opinion... I'll have to check out this mysterious 'John Cusack' guy. Hmmmm.

I always thought of petra as having close-cropped hair. Remember, Ender thought she was a boy at first, or so I think. I don't want to be accused of heresey if I'm wrong.

I always thought of Valentine as having (Don't laugh) Red hair, though. But I guess Dekota could dye it.

And of course, this is all speculation that is really pointless, but I'm enjoying it.

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ummm... isn't petra armanian? Or would they die her hair? I can't exactly picture her as a genius in this movie(not that she's stupid or anything. Valentine is too wise, mature, and protective. Dakota Fanning needs to stick with the Charlotte's Web kind of movies.I don't think she could be anyone in this movie. She's too cute and playful just from looking at her. Don't get me wrong though, she's a good actress and did a killer job in War of the Worlds but this movie isn't for her.
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