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theinvid
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Hi, new here but not new to EG. I'm curious to find out how everyone was introduced to EG.
I'll begin with my little story.

First off I'm a fan of 3 major franchises. Star Wars, Robotech and Ender's Game.

When I was in HS I was 'forced' to read certain books for class. I pretty much never cared for any of the required reading books. I thought that I hated reading in general until I one day read a Star Wars book and found that I really enjoyed it.
So...I read every star wars book I could get my hands on.
In college (early 20's) I had a close friend that suggested I read Ender's Game and handed me a copy. Here I was again, someone telling me what I should read. I read the cover of the book and immediately judged that it wouldn't be any good.

The book sat in the trunk of my car for MONTHS. One day as I was waiting for my buddies at the raquetteball court I realized that I was about 30 minutes early and didn't have my latest star wars book to help pass the time. I remembered the EG book in the trunk and figured...well...let's read a few pages until they get here.
Well, I immediately knew upon reading the first page that I was going to read the entire book. I became excited about it and couldn't put it down.

I had never read something so easy to read and yet also so deep at the same time. It immediately became my favorite book of all time (not that I had experimented much with other authors/genres). It was also the first book that I EVER read a 2nd time. Scott Card opened my eyes to the fact that there are other great books out there and I should give them a chance. I quite literally judged the book by the cover in regards to EG and boy was I wrong to do so.

Ofcourse, now I've read the book many times and am about to re-read the entire series yet again. (something I do every year or 2)

EG is still my favorite book/series of all-time and I owe a debt of gratitude to my friend that loaned me the book. Now I'm more of an EG fan than he is. I make it a point to share EG with as many EGVirgins as possible and have bought numerous copies to give away.

My friend made a casual recommendation and loaned me the book...little did he know (nor I at the time) what a tremendous gift he had bestowed upon me.

Sorry if it got a little long-winded.
Please SHARE your story.

--theinvid

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Sean Monahan
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In my teens, I liked sci-fi, but I hadn't read much of it. I'd read a few books by Philip Jose Farmer, and not much else. When I was looking for a new book, I'd go to the (pitifully small) sci-fi section at Waldenbooks and look around for something that looked interesting.

Once, there were several stacks of this new paperback called Ender's Game. I read the back cover. It didn't sound that interesting. A kid that goes to a battle school? Ok. It didn't sound like there was very much "science" in this fiction. I picked something else and left.

The next time I came back, there were those stacks of Ender's Game again. The cover picture was neat. I picked it up and read the back again. It still didn't sound interesting. I picked something else and left.

I did this a bunch of times for a long time. It never sounded interesting to me, but it was always there staring me in the face when I went. Eventually, I bought it just to put it out of its misery, so it would stop bugging me. And I discovered great literature within sci-fi. It completely blew away all other sci-fi I had yet read.

I also was judging books by their covers. It's almost remarkable that I discovered it at all. I'd never heard of OSC or EG, never had anyone recommend it to me, never read a review about it. Even the book's own advertisement of itself didn't sell me. I just picked it up almost randomly.

After that, I bought every OSC book I could get my hands on.

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adenam
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My story is not so interesting. In elementary school I participated in reading olympics and luckily for me Ender's Game was on the list one year. I remember hearing it was good so I got it from the school library and sat down to read it after school. I got up from the chair several hours later after turning the last page and was blown away so much so that I walked around in a daze for the next day and still do whenever I really think about how great a book it is.
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It was part of my ninth grade curriculum. (along with Shoeless Joe and Lord of the Flies) I read Speaker immediately afterwards during thanksgiving break. I remember sitting in my parent's basement listening to Tom Petty's Wildflowers cd. I struggled with the opening chapters of Xenocide at that point. It was not until I was a freshman in college that I revisited it after reading Pastwatch. Then of course I went right into Children of the Mind.

The only book in the series I did not enjoy was the final Shadow book. I know many people enjoyed the war and tactics, but my eyes sort of glazed over most of it. I much more enjoy the narratives and ideas of the Ender books.

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Three or four years ago while I was frequenting a BYU sports message board (which includes many topics beyond sports, as this experience attests to) someone talked about OSC and this book being a good place to start.

Unfortunately, my wife found "First Meetings" at the library so I read that first and it gave much of EG away--not to mention the short story version at the end. But, I loved the writing, then read EG, then read the rest of that series and have pretty much read everything else since then.

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In our middle school library someone happened to have pulled OSC book and misshelved it next to Ray Bradbury. It caught my attention and I checked it out when I was in the 7th grade. By the time I was in the 8th grade I had checked it out 3 time and was the only person who had. It hit the discard list and the librarian gave the book to me instead of doing what ever middle school libraries do with their discard books.
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Sean Monahan
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quote:
Originally posted by Scooter:
Unfortunately, my wife found "First Meetings" at the library so I read that first and it gave much of EG away

This reminds me of an unfortunate experience I had with a different book.

In 1980, The Empire Strikes Back was in theaters. I was 12, and was excited to see it. I was in a bookstore one day, before my parents took me to the movie, and I saw the novelization on the shelf. I picked it up and flipped it open to a random page. There was one line on the page that was written in italics, so my eye was drawn to that line. The line said:

No, I am your father.

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quote:
Unfortunately, my wife found "First Meetings" at the library so I read that first and it gave much of EG away
For some reason, it was impossible for me to find a copy of Speaker for the Dead after I read Ender's Game. I saw Xenocide at a used book sale and bought it with the intention to not give in to temptation and read it first. I failed and that basically ruined all the Ender sequals for me but I learned my lesson.
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A coworker of my mother's gave her the book to give to me and I was hooked.

theinvid -

Is your favorite Star Wars book I, Jedi by chance?

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My friends in 7th grade were reading it.

We spent a lot of time writing "Cover your butt" on the desks.

The rest is history.

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Hmmmm....OK, I'm also "new" to hatrack.com, but not "new" to EG...

I was also "forced" to read EG in high school. Ever since reading it for the first time, I considered it...and still consider it, my favorite book ever. I recently read EG again, and also just finished my first time through the Shadow series (loved EVERY single one of them), and now am working my way back through Speaker/Xenocide/Children (also my first time completely through that series). I just finished Ender in Exile...so I guess you could say for the past few months I've been living my entire life in Ender's universe! [Smile] (and loving every second of it! [Wink]

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In 1990, when I was a freshman in college, a friend of mine loaned me a copy of Ender's Game. I wasn't particularly impressed, but he told me that he'd only loaned me that one to prep me for Speaker. I was skeptical, but our tastes were similar enough that I was willing to give Card one more try. Speaker for the Dead blew me away, and was probably my favorite book for a while. It's still up there.
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I read Prentice Alvin first, then Seventh Son and Red Prophet. From there, I found my way to Ender's Game.
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In eighth grade, we used to have 15 minutes of quiet reading three days a week at the start of class. Our teacher had a fairly well stocked bookshelf, and one day when I had nothing else to read I ended up picking Speaker For the Dead up to read. After that, I went to the library and got Ender's game and later Xenocide.
Speaker is still my favorite book of the four, but I still reread all of them from time to time.

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My friend was sleeping over during Junior High. It was late, and I was getting bored so he explained the whole plot to me. I started with Homecoming and Alvin Maker first, then read Ender's Game only a year ago.

I prefer Ender's Shadow.

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I wish I had gone to a school where EG was required reading. My high school english teacher was firmly in the "science fiction is not real literature" camp.
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How was I introduced to Ender's Game?

I subscribed to Analog in the 70's.

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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
I read Prentice Alvin first, then Seventh Son and Red Prophet. From there, I found my way to Ender's Game.

That's sort of how it happened for me. I was browsing available audiobooks on the state's library site and hit Prentice Alvin first. Then, one day it clicked that OSC also wrote Ender's Games, which a friend had recommended about a year prior. I'd tucked the recommendation away in my head for some unknown later date, but once I realized how good Prentice Alvin was, made a point to listen to EG next.

Looks like I must be the the only (one of?) person so far to comment on this thread who didn't read it earlier in life. It's only been about a year since my first EG experience. (Edit: I'm 28.)

Since then, though, I've been pushing it on my brother to read. His Christmas gift this year was comprised of the both box sets (meanding the Shadow books, too).

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To answer Lyrhawn's question of:

"Is your favorite Star Wars book I, Jedi by chance?"

Answer: Actually, I have not read 'I, Jedi'. I read the cover...didn't sound that great...didn't buy it. LOL Maybe I haven't learned my lesson.

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I was about twelve or so, maybe, and I saw the book. I had a huge appetite for books that seemed long enough to keep me occupied for most of a summer afternoon, so this is the direction that I went. I actually stole a copy from the library, because I didn't have enough money to buy it. Like, premeditatively. Returned the book, having read it, and then a week later, put it in my backpack without checking it out. This was far enough back that they didn't have those little electronic tags.

I paid for this later, many times over, in all the times I've given copies as gifts to people I care about. But yeah.

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quote:
Originally posted by theinvid:
To answer Lyrhawn's question of:

"Is your favorite Star Wars book I, Jedi by chance?"

Answer: Actually, I have not read 'I, Jedi'. I read the cover...didn't sound that great...didn't buy it. LOL Maybe I haven't learned my lesson.

In that case, where does your username come from?

Also, you might want to give I, Jedi a go if you've read and liked any of the Star Wars EU books. I think there's a strong case to be made for I, Jedi being one of the best books from the expanded universe.

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I have known OSC as a writer for many years in many different venues. Then, my favorite Card books were Saint's Speak (now out of print) and a Woman of Destiny (now printed as Saints) My wife was in neighborhood book club. They bought and read a book from different periods or styles each month. One month they had decided on SF. Someone suggested that they try Wyrms. I read her copy, without looking at the author. It was a paperback and she kept it in a cover-carrier. I had decided that the author must have been Greek, and took a peek to verify. Boy was I suprised. I had no idea the OSC wrote SF. I read the Alvin Maker books next. I didn't read Enders Game, until one of my kids brought it home from Jr. High. I didn't read the Shadow or Speaker books until I started hanging arround here. My favorites are the Women of the Old Testement series. I consider Stone Tablets to be one of them, although it was written much earler than the others.
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theinvid
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To answer Ricree101:
"Where does your username come from?"
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(theinvid) The Invid are an alien species that attacks Earth in the 3rd Generation of ROBOTECH...an 85 episode cartoon from the mid 80s.

Is there some sort of reference to 'theinvid' in the I, Jedi book?

I believe I'll be picking up this book after I re-read the entire EG series...of which I just started.

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Invid -- *Anything* by Michael Stackpole is worth your time to read.

I especially recommend "Talion: Revenant" (standalone) and his "Dark Glory War" series.

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Magson-- I read the reviews for the aforementioned book/books by Stackpole...
Sounds interesting, though I must admit I've NEVER read a 'fantasy' genre book before.

It's always been sci-fi for me.

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Well, if you want an introduction to fantasy that you can trust ... OSC wrote my favorite fantasy book, Enchantment. (I sell that one the way some people around here sell Ender's Game.)

I first read Ender's Game as an adult, BTW - sometime after I got married. I liked it, but it wasn't a life-changing religious experience the way it seems to be for many OSC fans. (Maybe because I wasn't an extraordinarily gifted but lonely teenage boy?) Then I read several other of his works and he became my favorite author. Later I went on to read the rest of the Ender and Shadow series (I'm working on Ender in Exile now). And the series as a whole has just kept me riveted; I'm always giddy when a new Ender or Bean book comes out. So Ender's Game by itself was not really that monumental to me, but the whole series is wonderful. They're almost real.

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JennaDean:
I suppose that if I were to read a fantasy book...why not start with Card. Makes perfect sense.
I haven't run out of sci-fi to read and am not sure that I'm ready to stray to fantasy yet. I think I'll try Enchantment out on my wife first who is already a fan of fantasy.

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The first three books of the Alvin Maker series (Seventh Son, Red Prophet, and Prentice Alvin) are incredibly good fantasy by Card. Hart's Hope is also spectacular.
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I was browsing through our High School Library and was running out of time to pick a book. I just grabbed Ender's Shadow because I thought the title sounded cool. I liked it and then read Ender's Game, which is now my favorite book.
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Welcome to hatrack Sakura!!!! [Wave]
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My sister suggested EG to me when I was....I don't know, maybe 8. I (being 15 now) was on iTunes burning Christmas iTunes money and thought I would get a book to "read" since I was out of them at the time. I say in the Sci-fi/fantasy section EG and decided to get it, (I previewed the reader first of course) I loved it and got the others after begging my mother for around $100 in iTunes cards. I still don't have Xenocide, and I just read COTM so I really need 25 bucks. ^____^
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Thanks Adenam. [Wave]
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Pennie,
You read COTM without first having read xenocide?

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sorry for the nonsequiter but I just realized that the smileys wave insync and it is SO COOL!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by Pennie-Lain:
My sister suggested EG to me when I was....I don't know, maybe 8. I (being 15 now) was on iTunes burning Christmas iTunes money and thought I would get a book to "read" since I was out of them at the time. I say in the Sci-fi/fantasy section EG and decided to get it, (I previewed the reader first of course) I loved it and got the others after begging my mother for around $100 in iTunes cards. I still don't have Xenocide, and I just read COTM so I really need 25 bucks. ^____^

Search around for some other ways to get your hands on audiobooks, whether it means buying them cheaper or just borrowing them from your local library. I guarantee you you'll end up saving loads of money if you find some other way. Best of luck!
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I suppose I was about fourteen - close to twenty years ago - and I'd never read a book for pleasure. Well, not 'never' if Schoolasitc press counts, but never a full novel.

I was in the highschool library one day and a friend of mine was reading Crewel Lye by Piers Anthony. I remember saying "What are you doing reading a book?!". He proceeded to tell me a bit of the story and I was surprised to find how interesting it sounded. So when he finished, I read it. After that I started to go back and read all of Xanth up to that point, along with whatever other fantasy the school library contained. In the course of searching (and too often failing) to find a really good story, an English teacher paused me one day after class and said, "I see you've been reading a lot of fantasy lately. Ask the librarian about a book called Ender's Game. It is science fiction, but I think you'll really like it."

She was right. Not only did it immediately become my favorite book (and still is), it was the first book of fantasy to teach me something of great value... what love really is. The knowledge that understanding of another requires that you love them, and vice versa, has been a shaping factor in my life. I will always be thankful that a man like Mr. Card was there to teach me such a wonderful lesson.

I too have purchased more copies than I can count, giving them away whenever appropriate. And I also read the book again every few years; and still I learn - or relearn - from Andrew Wiggin.

I suppose this is bit off-topic for the thread, but thinking of what Ender has meant to me reminds me of it, and it is something I want to share... I think the only other fantasy story that has had a greater impact on me (in a personal/spritual way) than Ender would be Terry Goodkind's Faith of the Fallen. I won't pretend for a second that Goodkind can hold a pen to Card when it comes to the technicality of writing, however, Faith of the Fallen in particular holds the most important bit of insight I have ever found in a book.

So anyway, Orson Scott Card has been enriching my life for nearly 20 years, Ender having been just the begining. I just finished Keeper of Dreams this evening (I'd read all but the last segment months ago...) and I believe I have something new to investigate that perhaps it is now time for me to do. I believe this may turn out to be one more thing I'll have to thank Orson for. =)

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quote:
Originally posted by JennaDean:
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I first read Ender's Game as an adult, BTW - sometime after I got married. I liked it, but it wasn't a life-changing religious experience the way it seems to be for many OSC fans. (Maybe because I wasn't an extraordinarily gifted but lonely teenage boy?) ...

hahahaha, yeah it probably meant more if you were a gifted but ISOLATED teenage boy! (remember, Ender wasn't without company or companions - his isolation was emotional and not of his own making... that's the part which is often identifiable, I think).
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My 3rd grade teacher read the book to our class... would read 20 mins a day..

It was my first introduction to sci-fi and haven't stopped reading since... she was a great teacher.

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For me, I think I was introduced when I was 12 years old, only a couple years after the book came out originally, so in many ways I have grown up with Ender.

My Mother gave me the first copy in an ongoing attempt to get me to read a book, ANY BOOK to the end. Well, I never had much interest in most things I had picked up until that point, then she gave me Ender's Game. I found that I wasnt a very fast reader, but then again, I would keep re-reading until I had a clear PICTURE of what was going on in the book(as if I were watching a movie). Plus I didnt want to read through so fast that I would miss anything, except the meanls I tried to skip in order to continue reading! lol

My mother found it both amusing as well as annoying the fact that all this time she had tried to get me into a reading habit and now she was having to ask me to actually PUT DOWN THE BOOK and come to dinner! lol I must have read EG at least half a dozen times, and enjoy it even more in some ways in its unabridged audiobook format. I also have found the book so enjoyable and enriching that I have given away no less than a dozen copies as gifts and purchased about the same number of copies for myself due to others "borrowing" the book from me. Im not sure if I have ever actually got a single copy back that I ever lent out!

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When I asked the owner at Fireside Books in Forest City, NC for an entertaining book, he suggested Ender's Game.

He did good.

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I grew up with an afinity for scifi, but couldn't find any good scifi in my school library. the last sci-fi book I read in Middle School was so horrible that I put it down and started reading technothrillers that I had just discovered. I read pretty much everything by Larry Bond and Tom Clancy. I didn't revisit sci-fi until my 20's when a friend turned me onto the Red Green Blue Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson. After that I realized it wasn't that there wassn't good sci-fi, just that I hadn't discovered the good authors. One day I noticed an anthology of scifi in my library which I started thumbing through. I started reading a little of the Ender's Game Short Story which I knew from the preface was also a novel. I loved it immediately so I stopped reading the short story and went and checked out the novel. I'm so glad I did that.
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i was ill in bed for about a week. on the second day my mom gave me her old copy of Enders Game. i finished it by 11 o clock that night and never looked back.
the Enderverse is my all time favourite series

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I was reading it in my friend's dorm room at college the other day, and she goes, "Eww Ender's Game? I read that in school, I hated it!"
Well, I THOUGHT she was a good friend... (Kidding!!)

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My hubby had the original three books... I love reading... It didnt take long before I cracked open his books and fell completelyin love.
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Tora,

Have you read beyond those 3 books yet?

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Back in high school days I read OSC's early books: A Planet Called Treason, Hot Sleep, Capitol.

Didn't read any SF while I was in college. By the time I started reading Card again, thanks to a friend, he'd written Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead.

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I found Ender's Shadow at my middle school library first--loved it. Spent my allowance on Ender's Game--loved it. And I've read them each at least once a year since then [Big Grin]

I've also read through the rest of the Ender/Bean series and the Alvin Maker series too.

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I was in high school when The Abyss came out. I don't remember who suggested the book, but I finished reading it within about a week of the movie release. I loved it!! My sister has always been a fan of OSC and had read Ender's Game. For a while I wasn't much of a reader and I never picked it up, but I always remembered that she really liked it. Once I finally picked up EG, I was hooked!! I continued the series, as well as the Shadow books. Moved on to the Tales of Alvin Maker. Another sister recommended Hart's Hope and Folk of the Fringe. Haven't read Folk yet, but enjoyed Hart's Hope. Have read his short stories online, and really enjoyed Magic Street (liked that he included the Waterbaby story in that one).

Pretty much pick up anything I can by Card even if I dont' get a chance to read it right away. Sometimes my life is too hectic to read anything too complex and I don't want to lose any of what OSC writes, so some of his books get pushed aside in favor of "easier" reads. But I will get to all of them eventually. I just want to be able to devote enough of my attention to the book.

I work in a bookstore and try whenever I can to push OSC books. I usually start with Ender and Alvin. Have one coworker completely hooked after only a couple of books. Have managed to sell a couple EGs to customers to get them started, too.

Now I just wish we could get the older books in stock easier. Perhaps a republication of some of those that are out of print, too????

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My awesome ninth-grade English teacher made us read it and from the cover I was less than excited about it, but after the first few pages I got really into it.
By the time Lock and Demosthenes came into the picture, I was full-on obsessed with this book and read it so many times that the spine grew wobbly. Maybe it's because I'm still a kid that I liked it so much. Then my awesome teacher introduced me to Speaker for the Dead, which I didn't like as much, and I ordered the Shadow series and Ender in Exile online because it had just come out that year. I liked those much better.
The Enderverse was all I talked about until the end of ninth grade and my friends were totally freaked out because they thought I was becoming a nerd and I usually don't talk about sci-fi. OSC changed all that, though, and now I read his books and IGMS all the time! I got over the scary, obsessive phase but I'm still a big, big fan.

I have to say, though, is it crazy that I developed a little crush on Peter and Dink's characters?

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I stumbled upon this forum through the Alvin Maker books and obviously there was a lot of chatter about Ender's Game - or at least loads of references. At some point the number of times that I came across references to this book reached the point where it was stuck in my head, sort of. The very next time I was in a book store, I picked it up (the fact that it was on sale may have helped as well).

So, in all I guess that's not a very impressive story. But hey, you asked... [Big Grin]

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