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That's IT! Dr. Who meets Star Trek wherein the Daleks and the Borg battle it out for control of the entire universe. Q to provide comic relief. OF course.
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My problem's with the cannon of trek and enterprise:
1)earth was at war with the romulans before the formation of the federation and starfleet.
2)the federation and starfleet were created at the same time.
3)kilingons weren't known of until 50 years after the formation of the federation.
4)klingons in TOS had a different appearance that the modern klingons do not discuss.
they could be explaned due to all the f****** time travel episodes screwing up history, but still...
oh, and rivka,
quote:Kirk's Enterprise was among the first (or, according to the book The Final Frontier, THE first) starships to be built. Ever. OOPS! We changed our minds on that!
the enterprise was not one of the first, it was built a century after the formation of starfleet, and there was a s.s. enterprise (one of the first earth ships) series that was going to air after tos was cancelled but it never went through, there was even a picture of the s.s. enterprise in the first star trek movie.
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MEC, were any of those actually discussed in an episode? The 'official chronology' and 'Star Trek Encyclopedia' don't count. If it wasn't said on screen in a televised episode or film, canon-wise, it didn't happen.
And the only explanation given in DS9 (during the brilliant episode "Trials and Tribble-ations") was that "We don't discuss it." - and that from Worf.
Seeing as ENT takes place a good deal of time BEFORE 'TOS', there is still room for some sort of genetic testing and/or 'stealth program' that would be instituted in the Empire.
As for the Romulans? I have a feeling we'll be seeing them show up in Season 4. Call it a hunch.
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the only evidance i can offer of the s. s. enterprise is the picture in the first movie.
The u.s.s enterprise was launched in 2245 from the san francisco yards("The Cage" [TOS])
First contact between the klingons and the federation took place in 2218("Day of the Dove" [TOS])
a bitter war occured between earth and romulan forces around 2160 using early space vessels using primative atomic weapons("Balance of Terror" [TOS])
the united federation of planets was founded in 2161("The Outcast" [TNG])
it seems i was mistaken about starfleet and the federation being formed at the same time, starfleets founding date is never stated.
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quote: And the only explanation given in DS9 (during the brilliant episode "Trials and Tribble-ations") was that "We don't discuss it." - and that from Worf.
I thought Worf said that the TOS Klingons were from the Northern Hemisphere and his type were from the Southern one, or vice-versa, and that the other group had been in prominence back then. Am I imagining that?
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U.S.S. = United StarShip S.S. = Space Ship (AND would predate Starfleet, as I recall)
The U.S.S. Enterprise, Naval Construction Contract 1701 was (among) the first starships. The S.S. Enterprise was not. Hoverer, in the first episode of Enterprise (and several others) that ship was referred to as a starship.
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starship = ship that can travel between stars
spaceship = ship can travel in space
also note that your novel said it was the first, however in the show, there are deadleus class starships that outdated the constitution class starships in starfleet.
also note that the u.s.s. enterprise was launched almost a century after the formation of the federation.
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The starship/spaceship thing did NOT come from a novel. I have a feeling it may have come from one of the gazillion "about ST" books, though. *thinks* although I thought it had actually come from TNG episode.
There was evidence in some of the time-travel episodes that Starfleet was not created until quite some time after the Federation.
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well, u.s.s. is reffered to as united starship and united space ship in the original series. And the logical conclusion is tht united starship is the correct name since all the ships are called starships. Also logic would tell us that s.s. stand for starship without the united. But it has not yet been said wheather u.s.s. refers to a ship in starfleet or a ship in the federation.
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Since Shatner didn't actually write any books (although the number with his name on the cover seems to keep increasing ), I don't see the relevance of your comment, Whale.
Anyway, I have a life. Hatcrack. Posts: 32919 | Registered: Mar 2003
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