quote: kept the deficit low and spent the money for the war in Iraq to teach American kids how to be speak the many dialects in the Middle East to fight the real ideological war, and not with guns.
And without hard power, you aren't getting those ideas into an area that is hostile.
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quote:Humans are a patch-work quilt of emotions and motives. There is no black and white.
Yes and no, but somethings like prostitution, pornography, and courage are clear as day, they just don't give themselves over to easy definitions, but you know it when you see it and pretending that they don't exist doesn't help anybody.
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quote: Or the second method is more useless, as we blame the victims and try to figure out what we/they could have done differently to keep the terrorists from attacking us/them. Only to eventually realize that one cannot reason or deal with terrorists.
Are you actually saying that looking at terrorists as
quote: bloodthirsty lunatics who are attacking our way of life because they are jealous of our freedom.
is more useful then as
quote: the products of geopolitical injustice.
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Seriously?
Does that mean you don't think there is any chance of stopping terrorism peacefully?
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Jebus, if you look at the ballooning American prison population, I don't know if you can defeat terrorism by more jails, either. _______________________ Rivka,
Take an American terrorist organization, the KKK. There is an extent to which the North did their part in creating the KKK by demoralizing the already poor southern whites after the war. There didn't have to be a KKK, and it doesn't mean the Klan members where any less culpable for their actions, but they sure weren't born that way and there was something we could have done about it.
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And they were definitely born that way. Ever hear of Nathanial Bedford Forrest's exploits during the Civil War?
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quote: The Confederates charged the Union position and drove the federal soldiers over the bluff and down the riverbank, where many tried to surrender. What happened next has been debated over the years. From the high casualty rate of the Union troops it seems a massacre occured. The Union troops suffered 231 killed, 100 wounded, and 226 captured. The black units suffered 64 percent killed; the white units only 33 percent. The attacking Confederates suffered only 14 killed and 86 wounded.
Gen. Forrest was a slave trader prior to the war and was a founding member of the Ku Klux Klan after. He led the attack on Ft. Pillow that ended in the massacre of Black soldiers trying to surrender. Unfortunately, his name is still revered by many in the South.
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Unless you mean that since a slave trader who massacred blacks helped start the KKK. Obviously his hatred for blacks wasn't due to northern influence and thus none of the people who supported him and joined the KKK were a product of it either.
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Forrest represented what the KKK was. A group resentful of the fact that they were beaten by the North and that the Blacks were no longer slaves. The only way to have prevented the creation of the KKK was to either have not beat the South or let the South keep slaves. Its not the way we beat the South, its the fact that we did.
As far as being "born" that way. I imagine that they would be less likely to become members of thr KKK if they were born in the North, but its not like we did something and it flipped a switch and they were suddenly racists.
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