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For the women who write slash (and it is mostly hetero women, exceptions are rare) its because they like the idea of two guys together. Its like the way some men really like the idea of lesbian sex (or so I'm lead to believe, from episodes of Seinfeld). Guy= sexy. Two guys= sexyx2.
I have been told, though, that the highly-touted girl-on-girl action of straight porn for men usually involves a male coming into play at some point. Slashfic usually doesn't, I'm told.
Lisa sent me an article about it once. I'll see if I can find it.
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I refuse to read most fanfic because most of it isn't harmless and is way steamier than anything I would normally read.
I only read if it was written by someone I trust and she (mostly she) says "I promise you it's <blah>."
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I can't say it's not disturbingly arousing. I just think it shouldn't be validated, as it objectifies people.
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And my buddy Nash was recently dating a lifelong lesbian who had just come out of a 20 year relationship. He was her first guy, ever. So I tend to think of sexuality as a sliding scale, points along a continuum-- not as an either/or type of thing.
I'd like to see a world where people are free to chose what is most comfortable for them, without things happening like happened to Matthew Shepard a few years ago yesterday.
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Porn objectifies people, and I don't support the porn film industry. I think what it does to people is sad and hurtful. I don't think erotica hurts the characters. Though a scathing expose of the slashfic industry 'written' by a former slashfic star would actually make for a very amusing read to most slashers, I think.
The article (I can't seem to find it) I read also suggested that women write these romances with two male characters as a way to escape societal expectations or stigmas about who is supposed to take the lead, etc. I think this is a big part of the huge yaoi/shounen-ai thing in Japan-- tons of fluffy little manga about same sex romances in high school, where one of the characters is really uke (basically a stand-in for a girl). These are written by and for girls, exclusively (and are usually illustrated with lots of flowers, etc. to make that point clear). They aren't usually sexual explicit (the term shounen-ai is entirely romantic, with maybe a kiss or hand holding), and are generally a way for young Japanese girls to escape the rigid stereotypes of what is expected of the ideal Japanese femme.
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I also think sexual orientation is malleable, but for the "Born Gay" movement such an idea is threatening.
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quote: I guess this could go under Zotto!s discussion of goodness, but the fact that a gay-->straight conversion will always be seen as religious propoganda and straight-->gay is comedy or high drama suggests a deep cultural bias, if not an objective good.
I think about it this way: It's basically analagous to the way people get up in arms about the "n-word", but don't really care about terms like "cracker". Notice that I don't even want to spell it out, because people are liable to be offended. It's because historically, blacks were persecuted by whites, not the other way around.
It's the same with sexuality. A "gay-->straight" conversion is too similar to the awful things some people did (like electroshock therapy) to try to "cure" homosexuality. In the other direction, there's no real history of anything like that happening, to my knowledge, at least.
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