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Not that i don't enjoy taking place in other types of posts in this site. I just find politics to be my favorite. I don't really get to talk my ideas to friends because they all see the same as i do, so i want different views. So insted of making un-organized posts through out the the site, i thought it would be more organized if we made one post about anything politics. Don't just think we have to talk about War, or the President, because that isn't just it. There's economy, health care, foreign aid with tsunami, what we will do over in California now because of flooding, stuff like that. I think at this site all i see with politics that only involves the Pres. it is getting old and borring. Let's see what everyone has to think. -Locke
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*laughs* I think just one thread for all of the political discussion would get a bit crowded. Why don't you start a thread about something specific you want to discuss?
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Well it's easier hearing what everyone has to say. Someone will bring something up, we'll get on topic with that, after a while say something else and do the same thing over.
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Having multiple threads allows for multiple discussions. One thread on multiple subjects is just...not very efficient.
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It is not a science because as a field of study, it is not subjected to scientific methodology.
However, I would say that it is political. Not because that is what it studies, but because those involved in the study of it are constantly acting on political motivations. I also state that this is true of any area of academia. Even biology. There was quite a rivalry between the pre-meds and the pre-scientists.
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Haha, well i guess ill give this post a little push. How does everyone think were going to do with California's flooding and Nevada's Blizzards when all of that turns to water, and California is a giant caynon what type of country support will we give? Will this be to close to the SoutEast Asia Tsunami and money for the homeless and others wont be raised fast enough? Will other countries help us? Even though no one really died compard to the Tsunami, lots of homes were destroyed. I know other countries wont help, we already have enough money, and i think it should be declared a National Catastrophie so support could come in.
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Silly newbies. They are so cuuuute. Confining politics all to one thread. *pat*pat* That's sweet.
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Alot of things can happen with things over there. Money will be raised of course, but where will the money go to?
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Don't underestimate the financial situation America is digging itself into. It's not like we're going to bankrupt ourselves tomorrow, but sinking into a multi trillion dollar deficit is nothing to shake a stick at, and it certainly isn't a trend we can continue.
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If all that water can be re-directed to places that need irrigation, that would be convenient. I do expect that aid will be given by the federal government (I'd be surprised if FEMA funds are not already in place). I don't expect help from other countries because we are capable of handling this problem on our own. Nor do I feel that nother countries owe us aid.
As for going into debt, it is concerning, but so far as I know, the national debt is currently a smaller percentage of our GDP than it has been in the past. We dug ourselves out of a huge hole following World War II. We can do it again, especially now that the economy seems to be doing better. On the other hand, we cannot have an expensive war and have tax cuts, no matter how much we need either one. It's pick and choose and since we're already in the midst of the war, I guess we ought to raise taxes. Not something I want to see, but it does seem necessary.
Lyrhawn: That nation/political entity that you refer to, while it did contract and expand, remained essentially centered around one point, namely the city Rome, so it stayed in one place. It also never officiated in a baseball game. Therfore, it can't possibly be called a Roamin' Umpire.
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Mr. Postman, I would like a clarification. Did you incorrectly spell the rest of the misspelt words in that sentence purposely as well?
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quote: As for going into debt, it is concerning, but so far as I know, the national debt is currently a smaller percentage of our GDP than it has been in the past. We dug ourselves out of a huge hole following World War II. We can do it again, especially now that the economy seems to be doing better. On the other hand, we cannot have an expensive war and have tax cuts, no matter how much we need either one. It's pick and choose and since we're already in the midst of the war, I guess we ought to raise taxes. Not something I want to see, but it does seem necessary
It is expected that as a percentage of the GDP, it will reach a 50 year high by 2006. It's already skyrocketing, and yes it was high during and after WW2, but the difference between then and now is that during WW2, taxes were raised to pay for the war effort. Today we lower taxes to pay for the war effort, hooray. It doesn't really matter how well the economy is doing if we don't tax it. If we keep spending at this rate, and especially if we do all of Bush's plans, the debt, as a percentage of the GDP will blast above that of WW2, which was already riding high above 90%.
And that seriously doesn't scare anyone?
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Yes, it bothers me. But Bush will be out of office beginning in 2009, and I expect either a more fiscally responsible Republican who will make an attempt at balancing the budget, or a Democrat, who will probably raise taxes. And there is no immediate need to panic, in my completely non-economist opinion. The states can also raise taxes individually to take up slack once the federal government goes through the inevitable cuts in services.
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Its also worth pointing out that WW2 was a global war which impacted strongly much of the world, and we were the only large power that got off (relatively) lightly. As such, we had all sorts of opportunities and advantages in surging forward, and the world as a whole was in a rebuilding stage.
In this case, we'll be sliding back right as several other major economies, specifically the EU and east asian combine, are revving up to full power, and we may very well get left behind (comparatively speaking), particularly if we no longer have the dollar to drag us along.
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I know it's not something I lie awake at nights worried about. But it's hard not to think about it whenever I hear we're spending another billion here, and a billion there. By the time Bush IS out of the White House, and our debt is at its highest in our history, we'll also have to come up with a way to fix social security, plus our energy grid will be close to falling apart (it already is now).
I guess my major point is we're in for a rude awakening if we stick with the whole "we're rich we can afford it" attitude.
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Wait a minute... weren't you the one who was banned from Pweb for calling everyone loser nerds who need to get a life?
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Not much we can do about the EU, although they are going to be burdened a bit over the next few decades spending a lot of resources fixing up the eastern nations that just joined them.
Also, the biggest rising threat economically from Asia is China, and that's not something we'll be able to fix until we can get China to adopt fair labor practices and human rights laws like the modern western world has.
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"We dug ourselves out of a huge hole following World War II. We can do it again, especially now that the economy seems to be doing better."
This does not necessarily logically follow, although it is a cornerstone of conservative thought.
But what worked once will not necessarily work again unless the conditions that caused it to work the first time are understood and duplicated.
There's an old Chinese proverb about this that refers to the essential conservatism and ancestor worship of Confuscian thought: "A farmer was walking in his fields when a rabbit, startled by his approach, leapt up and fled from him. It ran headlong into a tree stump nearby and broke its neck. The farmer brought the rabbit home and ate it. He and his family starved a few weeks later, having neglected their farming in favor of standing by the stump, waiting for more rabbits."
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I'll admit, when I saw the username, I was all set to psot a "Hi, interesting to see you again" post, as we had someone with the exact SN at pweb. But as no one has been insulted and told to get a life yet, I'm not sure.
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quote:This does not necessarily logically follow, although it is a cornerstone of conservative thought.
I think it's a cornerstone of Republican thought, which is not neccessarily linked to all conservatives.
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After WWII, our economy had an incredible boom because we were one of the few developed nations that still had its infrastructure in place. We don't have that luxury now.
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Unless, of course, Bush plans to bomb everyone else back to pre-industrial levels. That COULD be part of the strategy. j/k
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by the way, is there a rule in the TOS that says if your user name is Locke, you must preface it with punctuation marks?
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Yep, I'm an idiot. I didn't take the condition in the rest of the world into account. Thanks for pointing out the error in my thinking. *hangs head in shame*
Icarus, it has been my perception that the economy has been picking up a bit. However, I admit that I'm very insulated from business cycles, so perhaps I am wrong. And unfortunately, I can see a need to raise taxes significantly to cover all this debt, which might also be hard on the economy.
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Well you got to remember how the employement is doing nowa days. I never really was answered this question, i've asked alot of my teachers that i thought would really know, but it seems that they all have their own opinion. Some are saying that we have yet to recover the jobs that we lost from 9/11, but that sounds a little ify. And one of my other teachers said that we've doubled our employement rate because some companies are wishing to expand more. So if somone truely knows, please inform me. -Locke
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