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chracatoa
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All I can say is there is a right and wrong way to live life. If you truely want to know what God wants, all you need to do is ask Him
I'd say that's dangerous. (ex.: Q: "Should I fly this airplane through that building?" A: <yes>). How would you know who's/what's answering? Crazy fundamentalists may believe they're talking to God when they are only delusional.
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Maybe that's the reasoning behind "endure to the end."
Maybe. Maybe "endure to the end" is one of several psychological tools that have been honed for millennia to keep people from looking at the man behind the curtain.

At some point one must look at the path they are on and decide if they are heading to a place they want to be. Were I to continue "enduring" I'd very likely be dead right now, or at best on the same path I'm on right now only years behind. I chose to cut my losses and when God had the chance to change that, he decided not to, or wasn't there to change anything in the first place. What bothers me far more than any fear of what God will do to me or where my path is taking me is that so many people have to judge me spiritually incomptent or outright rebellious in order to stabilize their own world view.

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Not understanding this doesn't preclude the fact that there was an answer.

I cannot accept this. Only the most perverse of beings answers in a way He knows you will not be able to understand. Were such a god to exist, I could not worship him.
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katharina
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*shrug*

Maybe this is the wrong place for it. People are being very respectful of yours - wouldn't it suck to have someone come in and...analyze your life decisions negatively?

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I think it's usually a good idea to assume that other people have been sincere in their personal search, and that if they found something different from you, that isn't a threat to the legitimacy of your experience. You don't have to explain it or dismiss it. Just realize that we're all here to go on different journeys, whatever those journeys may entail.
THANK YOU.

Edit: I only wish that more theists felt that way.

[ April 07, 2005, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: twinky ]

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KarlEd
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*shrug*

Maybe this is the wrong place for it. People are being very respectful of yours - wouldn't it suck to have someone come in and...analyze your life decisions negatively?

Have I been disrespectful?
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Tom's post was pretty on-the-nose. I think he should have been more polite.
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Hey, someone comes out and says that all your answers can be had merely by asking, I come out and say they're wrong. [Smile]

They throw in an "in my opinion," or even an "in my experience," and they won't provoke a response. *grin*

I find it interesting, for example, that Hammer now apparently believes that God may not provide answers to sincere requests in a recognizable format.

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Hmm...I think I was talking more about the thread made in response and the defensiveness about the answers to questions posed here. When Occ did it, he got dogpiled. When KarlEd did it, it was made light, which is much better, but the intention was the same.

I wonder if this is because of the rash of baptisms last year? I know some people were upset, which seems the height of rudeness but is, I suppose, human. There used to be a general hands off approach - "Let the religiosos discuss among themselves." - but it's different now. I was hoping the hostility would go away on its own, but it's been a year now. Time for the pendulum to swing back.

[ April 07, 2005, 10:47 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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Forgive my obtuseness, but I'm not sure what you're talking about. What thread made in response? And what did Occ do for which he was dogpiled that I also did but wasn't? I'm sure I've missed something, which is likely since I've really only be in a couple of threads today. One of them was "Ask me anything".

I'm not feigning anything here, Kat. I might be misreading you, but it seems like I've been called hostile and disrespectful in two separate places and I honestly don't see it. [Confused]

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I don't see hostility here, in general.
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It seems to me that when there are two groups fundamentally different in some way who are used to experiencing hostility from the other, hostility may be perceived where there is none.

I don't see hostility here, but I do see people expressing honest opinions and being told that they are somehow wrong. I think the non-believers have received the brunt of it in this thread.

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