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Stray
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So much for me getting any work done this afternoon.
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Farmgirl
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I can't figure out exactly what I'm supposed to DO with this puzzle...
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Oh. nevermind. Got level 1 already. I'm getting the hang of it.
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Yeah, the instructions are dumb beyond belief.

Whatcha gotta do is leftclick the dots and move them so that none of connecting lines cross over each other.

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Yep - FINALLY figured that out. Up to level 3, and it certainly is becoming tougher. But it's kinda like "unwrapping" a package -- if you can figure out what is (theoritically) 'on top'.

Definately addicting

FG

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got to level 4 before I got tired of untangling.. they should call this Gordian Knot.
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Level 5 has handed me my brain.
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I can't see the whole thing. [Dont Know]
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Stray
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I've been working on 6 for a while and have sorted out all but two edge-crossings. But I don't see any way to fix those. So...close... [Wall Bash]
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And they definitely need to add a way to move multiple vertices at once.
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I got to level 5 with 680 points
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Level 5 completed so far, 917 points. So far, my best luck has been to try and get the points that are connected closer together to start with.

Edit: Level 6 completed, 1270. And that's minus points for taking a call and messing up my time. [Wink]

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Oooo, me like. Too bad I'm at work. My boss is about to have some very stern words with you, Stray.

--Enigmatic

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Argh! Shut it down at Level 8. I think my system could knock it out, but I don't want to spend the time.
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Oooh, addictive! I've put it as a Yahoo!Messenger status... [Evil Laugh]

And I just finished level 7, 2233 points. I'll stop now. I hope. [Big Grin]

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Make it stop...
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Stray
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I gave up at Level 7. Might try it again tomorrow, though...
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I got through level 4, but level 5 is just knotting up my brain.
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On level six, 870 points currently. Have to actually work now, sadly.
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theresa51282
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I am completely stuck on level 10
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Farmgirl
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Well, I e-mailed the link home just before I left for work. My oldest son began playing it about 1/2 hour before I got home, and as I walked in the door, he was already at level 9. Now he's on level 10.

I'm so jealous. He accomplished in less than an hour twice the levels I did during my whole afternoon at work.

Farmgirl

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Tante Shvester
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Remember that episode from Star Trek:TNG, where Wesley and his girlfriend were the only ones who weren't turned into zombies by a horribly addicting video game that was sent to the Enterprise as an alien plot to take over?

Well, I'm officially outing Stray as an alien secret agent! Now if I only had a child prodigy or two to save us all!

Calling all child prodigies! Make it stop!

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Woohoo! Level 11 [Smile]
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TomDavidson
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Did you ask him what approach he was using? Level 9 is defeating me.
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I'm on seven.
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Enigmatic
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Is there a way to save what level you're on to come back to it later? I got up to level 7 on my last break, but now I have to start over to play again.

--Enigmatic

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Rico
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Sadly I don't think you can, I think it only stores your game until you close your browser window.
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That's terribly fun!
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quote:
Is there a way to save what level you're on to come back to it later? I got up to level 7 on my last break, but now I have to start over to play again.
Sadly, I don't think so. My son got through level 11, then had to close it. There was an option to 'save settings' or something - but it didn't save at all (he checked). So if he wants to do it again, he will have to start at level 1 all over...

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Did you ask him what approach he was using? Level 9 is defeating me
Tom, I can't tell you. I even watched him for awhile and couldn't decide exactly what his "method" is -- but I'm sure he has a method. The analytical/quantitative part of his brain is his strongest gift, and he seemed to just be able to kind of "see" how it show go. But he was also very patient and exacting -- much more patient with it than I would have been at those levels.

Maybe theresa51282 can give you some tips on getting past 9.

FG

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Not really. I am actually the antithesis of a visual person. I am usually terrible at anything that requires spacial reasoning. I just worked at it. I started in a corner and got it worked out and then moved to another corner and then another before trying to fix the middle.
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corner? I thought levels 9, 10, 11 were basically circles. I remember seeing him gradually pull it apart piece by piece, figuring what was connected where....

(but this is a guy who will also untangle fishing line when it's in a major knot, instead of just cutting line and re-spooling!)

FG

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I tend to pick the ones which have really looong connections and all of them going towards the same area. Then I pull them toward that area and beyond, to the edge of the plane. Try this especially with the ones that have only 2, maybe 3 connections. I try to build clusters close to those, but I don't try to untangle everything there. I move to another one, and so on, until the clusters are more or less formed and separated. (few links between them) Then I work out what's left; usually if you look hard enough you'll see that there are edges between just two of the points that cut through lots of other edges, so the former should be moved to the "exterior", as should any other connections that follow them.

I hope this is at least *a little bit* helpful. (and clear...) [Big Grin]

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I got stuck on level 8. still working on it though and not getting anything else done... shhh... don't tell my boss
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This isn't Sid Meier, but rather his little brother on his account, and I feel bound to point out a huge bug in the game... try putting all the dots into one corner and clicking on the check mark. Consider the game ruined.
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Now why would you do that? [No No]

(Good work, actually! [Evil Laugh] )

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SidMeier's brother --

I tried that and nothing happened. What is supposed to?

Farmgirl
(and whatever made you think of doing that, anyway?)

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I finished up through level 11, but I took so long that I didn't get any points.
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Okay after getting ove rthe fact that my brother was using my Hatrack account, but ya it isn't just that he's any good at video games (well he IS good) its his seamingly innate ability to exploit whatever bug there is, when making ym C++ programs He'ld always find a way to wreck them, in fact there was this forum with this arcade which the forum people made and he found out how to exploit a bug and made it to first place in each game. So ya he doesn't actually know why he figures out how to do this I geuss its because while tring to figure out how to find an easy way of doing it he put them all at the edge and then it all made its way into the top right corner and bing exploit discovered. Since if its all in a corner there ARE no lines and we are now in the first dimension.
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The "load progress" thing, or whatever it is called, works for me. [Big Grin] Wish I *read* that before, by now I kind of got fed up with this...
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What does that do exactly?
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*grumble* I went straight through to level 12, left it open while we went to a movie, and we had a power outage and I lost it.
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Level 12 Completed
Elapsed Time: 8:21
Bonus: 692
Score: 5421

--Enigmatic

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Just finished level 13
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Funny you should mention that. I just finished level 14.

Why am I reminded of Q-bert all of a sudden?

--Enigmatic

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Hah! I was just thinking that you guys sounded like siblings. *grin
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I went to bed after level 13. [Smile]

B, are these totally easy for you? This must be designed exactly for my particular brain quirks -- the only reason the higher levels take longer is that there are more dots to move. (And sometimes you have to start over from the beginning because of stupic power failures.) But it's always obvious (to me) where the dots have to go.

I was wondering if you had that quirk too. Maybe it's genetic. [Smile] Anybody else? It's like when I click on a dot I can feel the tension in the strings connecting it. Move dot to release tension.

[ July 23, 2005, 10:31 AM: Message edited by: dkw ]

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I'm not sure I can claim the same quirk. The first 6 or 7 I did pretty much naturally, but as I went along I put some thought into it to figure out a system. It's definitely the case that higher levels don't really get harder, just longer. I think anybody that got past level 10 or so could probably just keep going for as long as their patience lasts.

If the ability to do this is genetic, Mom doesn't have it. She happened to call yesterday while I was playing so I told her to come her and find the link. She was playing it at work! Naughty. And when I came over for dinner she made me log on so she could see how I did it. hehehe.

--Enigmatic

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I wish there was another size level; i want more space to spread the dots out in.
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DKW, I totally know what you're talking about with the "tension" thing. That's the way I figure them out. I just click on a dot and move it to release the tension.
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I don't like the way the game fits onto my screen. Even with the small version, I can't see the whole graph at one time, and the scrolling up and down to move the dots is making this not worthwhile for me.
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