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Cactus Jack
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I think all of the nominees for short fiction in this year's Hugo and Nebula awards are now online.

Anyone have any favorites?

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Amilia
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I loved Inside Job. (Hugo--Novella)

Here's Dewey's booktalk on it.

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Kwea
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I just read that...it was great! [Big Grin]

BTW, Serenity is up for one on that liast as well. [Wink]

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Icarus
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Hey Kwea, did you get my voicemail(s)?
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Soara
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Serenity! Yay!
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Kwea
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I didn't have the phone today, sorry. [Big Grin]


I got out of work really late the last two days......not until 11:30 tongiht. [Frown]

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Teshi
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Ahaha, Doctor Who is up for three in the same category. Heeheehee.
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Lupus
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go serenity!

I can't believe that Feast made it though. I could see some of Martin's other books, but not this one.

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Kristen
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Looking at the Hugo nominees makes me realize that aside from Orson Scott Card and a few others, I really don't read that much scifi/fantasy.
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Telperion the Silver
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BSG. [Smile]
*happy*

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Nell Gwyn
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Slightly off-topic, but what is the difference between a novella and a novelette?
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rivka
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Length. Novella: 20,000-50,000 words; novelette: 7,500-17,500.

But really, both are used almost interchangeably (by everybody but judging committees [Wink] ).

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Nell Gwyn
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Okay, thanks. I figured it was something like that, but when I looked them up, dictionary.com just proclaimed them both as "short novels".
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Teshi
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So, if you write a story 17 501- 19 999 words long, what are you writing?

A Noveletta?

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rivka
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A short novel. [Wink]
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Teshi
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But there's no category for short novels!

O.o


[Wink]

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rivka
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No Nebula for you!
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Teshi
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That's just what I was thinking. All those poor people who got shafted just because of the length of their stories.

[Frown]

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rivka
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Hugo and Nebula guidelines call anything from 17,500-40,000 words a novella.

I should've checked there to begin with.

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Orincoro
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What do you call a non-fiction book 17,000-40,000 words long? besides obviously, a book.
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Stephan
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Well I read Robert Charles Wilson's Spin last week. Great book!
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quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Jack:
I think all of the nominees for short fiction in this year's Hugo and Nebula awards are now online.

Anyone have any favorites?

Spin, by Robert Charles Wilson, absolute, hands-down best Sci-fi/thriller i have EVER read(that includes all of OSCs work).
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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
What do you call a non-fiction book 17,000-40,000 words long? besides obviously, a book.

Novela or Novellete i believe. I think novellet, Novela is something like 3000-15000.
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Non-fiction books don't have names based on length [1] rather they are categorized by genre.


[1] Okay, that's not entirely true, there are books and there are pamphlets. And then there are the abominations which are more generally called 'self-help books.'

Edit to Add: Genre or type depending on how strict you want to be in your use of the term genre.

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Zalmoxis
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Wait -- what!?

George R.R. Martin says on his Web site that he has never one a Hugo award.

How is that possible?

Edit to ADD: As much as I would like to see him win a Hugo, Feast for Crows is the weakest novel in the series (which isn't saying much because it's such a good series). Perhaps it would be better if he didn't win this year, and then wins next year for the next book.

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George R.R. Martin says on his Web site that he has never one a Hugo award.

How is that possible?

He hasn't written all that many books, and it's harder for fantasy to win than science fiction. (Or does that only apply to the Nebula?)
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Kristen
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quote:
it's harder for fantasy to win than science fiction.
Mr. Porteiro (and everybody else as I think this is kind of interesting and genuinely don't know):

Why is that so? Do you think that fantasy has a disadvantaged position with the awards or that the quality and/or quantity of science fiction writing overwhelms that of fantasy?

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mr_porteiro_head
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I think that in general, fantasy isn't as good and is much more derivative than science fiction. This is understandable, since science fiction is around 100 years old and fantasy (as a genre) is only about 50 years old.

It was only 60 years ago that science fiction really got past its childhood of "Look! I've got space ships, laser guns and aliens!" and started producing a lot of stuff that has withtood the test of time. I'm optimistic that fantasy is taking the same turn right now away from "Look! I've got magic and swords and elves!"

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Kristen
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quote:
It was only 60 years ago that science fiction really got past its childhood of "Look! I've got space ships, laser guns and aliens!" and started producing a lot of stuff that has withtood the test of time. I'm optimistic that fantasy is taking the same turn right now away from "Look! I've got magic and swords and elves!"
[ROFL] But so true. And you can't forget the Orcs.
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OlavMah
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I thought George had won the Hugo in the short story category, but I could be wrong....

The last three novel winners I remember are Bujold's fantasy (Paladin of Souls, I think), Neil Gamon's American Gods, and J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter 4. I can't think of an SF winner (though granted, I'm not trying very hard.)

[ April 21, 2006, 10:32 AM: Message edited by: OlavMah ]

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God, why do Charles Stross's novels keep getting nominated? I haven't read Accelerando, to be fair, but Singularity Sky was tragically bad.
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George R.R. Martin has written SF. I've read both Dying of the Light and the collection of short stories Tuf Voyaging. Both are great and definitely worth a read if you're a Martin fan.
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