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I have a Great Uncle Sam too. I think a lot of him, inspite of some really creepy guys who work for him from time to time.
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quote:Originally posted by rivka: HEY! On behalf of my cousin Sam, I say to you.
Not that anyone calls him Sam since they made aliyah. Now he goes by Shmuel.
I had a great-uncle Sam whom I quite liked, so I have good associations with the name... but I stand by my assessment. Not that it has any practical application, 'cause I'm sticking with Shmuel myself.
My great uncle Sammy wasn't a Shmuel. He was a Shlomo. Now I have nephews named Sammy and Jake who are Shlomo and Yehuda. Ain't America grand?
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At least ham 'seasoning' is a little more vague, it's not ham per se, but it has certainly been involved on some level with a pig.
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quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester: Going by "Esther", there's one of me. Going by my legal American-type name, there's two of me.
I wonder which one I am?
Esther isn't an "American-type name"? I had a Korean friend in grade school whose "American name" (the one she went by, as opposed to her legal Korean name) was Esther. I also have a great-aunt Esther, from Kansas.
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I think the ham seasoning in this instance indicates that its a pork product being used as seasoning not that its seasoning designed to go on pork.
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quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester: Going by "Esther", there's one of me. Going by my legal American-type name, there's two of me.
I wonder which one I am?
Esther isn't an "American-type name"? I had a Korean friend in grade school whose "American name" (the one she went by, as opposed to her legal Korean name) was Esther. I also have a great-aunt Esther, from Kansas.
Well, yeah, Esther is an American-type name. It's just not MY American-type name. It's my Hebrew name. My American-type name (the one on my driver's license) is completely different. My ma didn't like the name "Esther", so she wanted to give me a prettier name. I think it still bugs her that I've decided to go by my Hebrew name, but she still calls me by my American-type name. I'm not hard-headed enough to insist that people who are accustomed to calling me by one name switch to another. Just when I introduce myself to new people, I introduce myself as Esther. And at this point, I think of myself as "Esther". Or Tante.
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Weird. If she didn't like the name Esther, why didn't she give you something else for a Hebrew name? (I hope I'm not insulting a family naming tradition asking that.) I love the name Esther! I actually have considered it for a girl's name or middle name, but since we have the next three picked out already, it's a ways off.
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But she couldn't have chosen another dead relative if she didn't like Esther? Or did she just really want to honor Esther, despite hating her name?
I agree completely, it's a classic, and it's very nice-sounding to my ears, as well. I think it fits pretty well with our other girls' names. I am definitely considering it for girl no. 5 if she comes along.
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It was the relative that she wanted to honor and remember.
Actually, the relative's name was "Abraham". I do not understand how Esther was derived from Abraham, except for starting with the same first letter. My mother can't explain it very well, either, but, supposedly, her father sat down and did some letter games with the name and came up with Esther. In Hebrew, each letter has a numerical value, so sometimes things "add up" to be equivalent. I have no idea how it works in my case, though. Ma probably acquiesced to her father's request, figuring that it wouldn't matter all that much since I'd be known by my American name anyway. To her chagrin, not.
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Huh, that's interesting. I have to admit I'm hard-pressed to come up with another girls' name that could be related to Abraham. Ava/Eva, maybe? (Although, like you, I'm mystified by the connection, I'll concede that your grandfather found one.)
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Esther, my best guess is that reduced-value gematria was used (see chart), combined with adding an extra 1 (which you are allowed to do in gematria for reasons I have never understood) for Esther. Then they both equal 14.
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This is my favorite Onion article ever, though it's totally out of context here. I love how hatrack conversations wander all over the map, though. I like to think I had a little to do with preserving that fine hatrack tradition that so many other forums get wrong. Anyway, the people at the Onion are obviously prescient, since this article was published in 2001.
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Oh, my, Tatiana. I remember the article, but I forgot how uncanny it was in prescience. It was published in January of 2001. Whoa!
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quote:Originally posted by ketchupqueen: Huh, that's interesting. I have to admit I'm hard-pressed to come up with another girls' name that could be related to Abraham. Ava/Eva, maybe? (Although, like you, I'm mystified by the connection, I'll concede that your grandfather found one.)
I had a friend named Abra when I was younger. I'm guessing that she was named after an Abraham.
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I probably shouldn't butt in on a this thread since I don't have any kosher issues, but the title intrigued me and I found the whole thread amusing. Did anyone see the irony from the Christian persepective:
quote: I don't believe there is a Jewish body whose authority would be recognized to change the law for all jews.
I've probably stepped way out of line mentioning it, but it did raise a smile.
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