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The Pixiest
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Ok guys, Tomorrow is the Thursday before the election which means either tomorrow or Friday there will be a scandal splattered all over the press. They do it pretty much every election cycle.

So let's get a Scandal Pool going. The winner gets the aww and respect of their fellow Jatraqueros.

Entries must contain when the scandal will break. (Most likely thursday or friday) Who the scandal will involve (Bush? Arnie? Gore?) and what the scandal will be about.

Example: Last Tuesday (Pre-mature Scandalgasm), Kerry, Calling our troops Ignorant.

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-Probably something involving nudity.
What can be worse than politicians naked?
Ew. [Angst]

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A Democrat, Friday, Is brought out of the closet by somebody (either truthfully or untruthfully).
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*dives in*

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Oh, not that kinda pool. [Wink]

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Juxtapose
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A Republican, Friday, is also brought out of the closet...with Alcon's Democrat! Talk about bipartisanship.

Photos found to be unpublishable, even by Reuters.

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Will B
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Last Sunday night before the election, Sixty Minutes will run a story showing that US troops, that is, the Bush admin, left a slew of weapons in a Baghdad building, just waiting for terrorists to pick up. The GOP has only 1 day to research the problem AND get their story out...but CBS gets scooped by NBC, which points out that CBS's own correspondent said the troops left no weapons behind in that spot, and that this report is still up on the CBS web site.
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Many liberals have been semi-joking that Bush has Osama stashed somewhere, ready to thaw out and present to the American people if things look to be going south.
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Get real Storm Saxon!
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They'd wait until the '08 election. [Big Grin]

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Jack Abramoff will indicate big money paid to a leading Dem.
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quote:
Originally posted by Storm Saxon:
Many liberals have been semi-joking that Bush has Osama stashed somewhere, ready to thaw out and present to the American people if things look to be going south.

Aw, you took mine.
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James Tiberius Kirk
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I'm kind of at a loss here. My scandal-imagination-engine ran out of juice about three or four scandals ago.

--j_k

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Oh boy, they're starting now. Time to sit back, make some popcorn, and enjoy the show. I'm sure that we'll get some more good ones in the next couple days.
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I'll have to go with Congressmen Mustard, in the Rotunda, with a wifle cane.

I'm sure the democrats will find some way to blow the entire gambit before Tuesday, they're just too experienced with these sorts of things to go a whole week without making some major, easily exploited, faux paux.

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Samprimary
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I want nudity, scurrility, and drunken debauchery. I will be seriously disappointed otherwise.
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I vote Jeri/Jack Ryan-style sex scandal.

-pH

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Oh geeze. Don't remind me of that one. Jack Ryan seemed like he was actually a half decent candidate. After he wussed out, the Republican party really dropped the ball trying to find a replacement. I would have liked to have seen the race between him and Obama. as it is, Obama more or less got a free pass into the senate.
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It inspired many jokes about how if the 'good fellers' wanted to get into congress, it had to be a fluke essentially mitigated by the other guy.
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Lyrhawn
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quote:
Originally posted by Will B:
Last Sunday night before the election, Sixty Minutes will run a story showing that US troops, that is, the Bush admin, left a slew of weapons in a Baghdad building, just waiting for terrorists to pick up. The GOP has only 1 day to research the problem AND get their story out...but CBS gets scooped by NBC, which points out that CBS's own correspondent said the troops left no weapons behind in that spot, and that this report is still up on the CBS web site.

Dude, that pretty much already happened.

The difference being, that it really did happen.

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WASHINGTON Oct 29, 2006 (AP) Nearly one of every 25 weapons the military bought for Iraqi security forces is missing, a government audit said Sunday. Many others cannot be repaired because parts or technical manuals are lacking.

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Morbo
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quote:
Originally posted by dantesparadigm:
I'll have to go with Congressmen Mustard, in the Rotunda, with a wifle cane.

That's been done, except with a President:
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On January 30, 1835 an unsuccessful attack occurred in the United States Capitol Building; it was the first assassination attempt made against an American President. One Richard Lawrence approached Jackson and fired two pistols, which both misfired. Jackson proceeded to attack Lawrence with his cane, prompting his aides to restrain him. As a result, Jackson's statue in the Capitol Rotunda is placed in front of the doorway in which the attempt occurred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson#Assassination_Attempt

I remembered that from HS history. It's such an odd mental image, a President caning someone in the Rotunda.

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There was a second time around the civil war. I can't remember the Southern congressman's name off the top of my head, but he bragged about breaking his cane over the back of the other congressman, and when he went home, his constituents presented him with more canes so he could do it again. [Smile]
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Lyrhawn
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Storm -

I think you're referring to Sumner/Brooks.

And you thought political infighting was bad now, Brooks didn't just break the cane over his back, he beat Sumner until he couldn't see, for the blood in his eyes, and passed out. He didn't attend Congress for a couple years after that, do to the damage done, and was even reelected, because of his ardent defense of freedom and an end to slavery. Brooks I believe wasn't charged with anything, and wasn't kicked out of the Senate, though he tried to resign, the people reelected him anyway and he served in Congress until his death. And his constituents sent him hundreds of canes I believe. He was recieved as a hero. Talk about partisan sniping.

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Yep, that'd be the one.
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Scandal Poop
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I HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

Ted Haggard of New Life Church, one of the most staunch and influential anti-gay evangelicals in the United States (You meet him in Jesus Camp!), a fella who's been the worst opponent of homosexual marriage and cultural acceptance of The Gay, a person detailed in Harpers and Jesus Camp as having the most influence over the political designs of Evangelism, a guy who had been noted to meet with President Bush or his advisers about once a week to command the Evangelical lobby.

Just stepped down from the ministry of New Life Church and the National Association of Evangelicals.

A male escort apparently has tapes and letters from a three-year extramarital homosexual relationship he had with Ted, which also involved Ted smoking methamphetamine before sex.

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Lyrhawn
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He says it's not true.

That's that.

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Apparently, his stepping down is according to some procedures in his church when moral accusations are made and not an admission of guilt, according to a church spokesman.

But if the allegation is true, he should be nicknamed Haggard aka Hoary.

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Lyrhawn
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Whenever someone is accused of something amoral they have to step down?

Seems pretty drastic, especially for such a large organization.

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I'm going to say that the GOP will secretly insert a provision doing away with the auditor general position in Iraq, surprising not only the Dems, but GOP stalwarts as well.

And it will happen yesterday.

And we'll get to find out which incumbents, up for re-election, voted for this return to unmonitored spending by Halliburton.


Oh look! I win!

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Morbo
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Lyr, I'm just repeating what some flack for his church said.

According to the heathens at the LA Times, he placed himself on administrative leave at his church while the allegation is investigated. But he outright resigned as president of the National Assn. of Evangelicals.

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A lengthy profile in Harper's magazine which is quoted approvingly on Haggard's website recounts how he built New Life Church in part by hanging out at gay bars and inviting the patrons to come to his sermons and be saved.
o_O [Wink]
Okay then.

Also, the guy making the accusation is a "49-year-old male prostitute." 49!? Isn't that a tad long in the tooth for that? So to speak?
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-evangelical3nov03,1,1024854.story?coll=la-news-a_section

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Looks like Rev. Ted is the new Jimmy Swaggart--he's admitted to some of the allegations.
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...senior church officials told KKTV 11News Thursday evening, Pastor Ted Haggard has admitted to some of the claims made by a former male escort. The church's Acting Senior Pastor, Ross Parsley, tells KKTV 11 News that Pastor Haggard has admitted to some of the indiscretions claimed by Mike Jones, but not all of them.
http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/4557411.html
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Well! I'm impressed. I thought the whole "Foley was the head of the anti-pedophile committee" thing was pretty rich, but this? Holy frazola, this guy has the president's ear on religious issues, and he's off cheating on his wife with a male prostitute while using methamphetamines?? Wow. The hypocrisy is just stunning.
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When these situations start to bubble to the surface, I have to remind myself of Billy Graham. That is, it is possible to be a well-known evangelist campaigner for moral virtue and not be dogged by personal scandal.

It really is possible.

Well, except for the anti-Semitism thing. [Frown]

*sigh

Okay. Strike that. We have dkw, kmboots, Scott R, and any number of decent religious persons on our boards, and dangit, you can't take that away from me!

*shakes fist

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I am only scandal-free due to lack of opportunity. But thank you.
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James Tiberius Kirk
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Whenever someone is accused of something amoral they have to step down?

Seems pretty drastic, especially for such a large organization.

Perhaps, but I believe a lot of churches operate that way. If the accusation is found to be true, then the church can say they took immediate action as soon as the issue came up and prevented the entire body from operating under a cloud of suspiscion. Something which, I might add, cannot be said about the US Congress.

If the accusations turned out to be completely false (which doesn't seem to be the case here), I'd assume he'd be able to step back into his original position.

--j_k

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This is so surreal. I had just seen his smarmy grin on Jesus Camp. What a bizarre corollary to that film.
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I dunno... I'm not sure how this will effect the election.. I'm not sure it's that good of a November Surprise.

I'm really disappointed in both parties this time. There's nothing nearly has hateful and funny as the LA times refering to Arnie as "Der Gropen Fuhrur" this time.

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It may not effect the election, but it might promote a new constitutional ammendment, disallowing Televangelists from being married, as they certainly pose a drastic threat to the sanctity of marriage.

A quote I wish Kerry would say, "Hey, thanks for getting me off the front page. Jeez, I just put my foot in my mouth."

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Don't forget Saddam is scheduled to be sentenced on the 5th.

My scandal prediction: instead of the death penalty, he is sentenced to community service among the Kurds. Which would be a de facto death sentence, but with more drama.

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quote:
Originally posted by James Tiberius Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Whenever someone is accused of something amoral they have to step down?

Seems pretty drastic, especially for such a large organization.

Perhaps, but I believe a lot of churches operate that way. If the accusation is found to be true, then the church can say they took immediate action as soon as the issue came up and prevented the entire body from operating under a cloud of suspiscion. Something which, I might add, cannot be said about the US Congress.

If the accusations turned out to be completely false (which doesn't seem to be the case here), I'd assume he'd be able to step back into his original position.

--j_k

I'm glad the Congress DOESN'T work that way. False accusations shouldn't be good enough to ruin someone's life or career. You need proof, and absent proof, an accusation should be investigated but no one should be punished beforehand. Doesn't sound very American.
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quote:
Originally posted by Morbo:
Don't forget Saddam is scheduled to be sentenced on the 5th.

My scandal prediction: instead of the death penalty, he is sentenced to community service among the Kurds. Which would be a de facto death sentence, but with more drama.

I want to see Saddam in a reality TV show.

Saddam, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jong Il, and Ahmedinijad are all living in a house in Hollywood, running a salon.

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Kind of like Hamas Intern--where, when they say "Your Fired" you are literaly fired, out of a canon, at any inappropriate targets the audience votes for.
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James Tiberius Kirk
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
quote:
Originally posted by James Tiberius Kirk:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
Whenever someone is accused of something amoral they have to step down?

Seems pretty drastic, especially for such a large organization.

Perhaps, but I believe a lot of churches operate that way. If the accusation is found to be true, then the church can say they took immediate action as soon as the issue came up and prevented the entire body from operating under a cloud of suspiscion. Something which, I might add, cannot be said about the US Congress.

If the accusations turned out to be completely false (which doesn't seem to be the case here), I'd assume he'd be able to step back into his original position.

--j_k

I'm glad the Congress DOESN'T work that way. False accusations shouldn't be good enough to ruin someone's life or career. You need proof, and absent proof, an accusation should be investigated but no one should be punished beforehand. Doesn't sound very American.
Just to clarify, I'm not saying that's how Congress should work (what a mess that would be), or that I know exactly how this particular church works. But he isn't being punished -- the idea is to prevent a pastor from preaching a sermon on Sunday, or counseling a family on Tuesday, or whatever, when he's under investagation. Like I said, if the accusations did turn out to be false, he'd be restored to his position.

--j_k

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