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Soara
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How much of this movie was scripted? I thought it was just a normal movie, but as I watched it, I began to realize that some of the people in it couldn't possibly have been saying lines from a script.

In some parts, however, it did sound scripted. such as the bear popping out of the back of the ice cream truck.

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Borat's lines were probably scripted, the rest were supposedly unscripted responses.
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It's a mockumentary, but with an emphasis on unscripted interviews, so the "story" aspect of the movie is improvised around a basic premise. Most of the interactions are unscripted, but with Borat and his cohorts knowing the kind of things they want to do, then rolling with whatever happens. If you watch the tv show, alot of those jokes and schtiks are things Borat has tried before.
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Some people are suing because they were misled and now they say their lives are messed up. So apparently their part was unscripted...
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I can't imagine that the Pamela Anderson or naked hotel fight scenes were unstaged, though. Wouldn't he have gotten arrested for both of those incidents?
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Apparently the cops were called over 50 times during the production of the film. Cohen and Pamela Anderson are old friends, though, so she was definitely in on that part. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Omega M.:
I can't imagine that the Pamela Anderson or naked hotel fight scenes were unstaged, though. Wouldn't he have gotten arrested for both of those incidents?

The Pamela scenes have to have at least had her cooperation.

The hotel, well, I had the same question. It's conceivable that they weren't done with cooperation of the hotel and other people in the scenes. I mean, it's possible that the hotel just threw them out and decided not to pursue any police involvement, but I'll admit that's a stretch. On the other hand, it sure didn't feel like the event they interrupted was staged, and I can't imagine a hotel allowing something like that. If it was all staged, it was pretty brilliantly done.

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I do also have to add that if the southern hostess's scenes weren't scripted she should be given an ambassadorship. I do suspect that toward the end she caught on that she was being played and that's when she threw him out. While she was (presumably) still buying that Borat was genuine, she was a veritable Platonic Ideal of the perfect hostess.
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quote:
Borat's lines were probably scripted
They were in Hebrew. With deliberate grammatical errors, but nonetheless in perfectly coherent Hebrew. Fatso's "Kazakh" lines weren't Hebrew though, they might've been gibberish.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan Howard:
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Borat's lines were probably scripted
They were in Hebrew. With deliberate grammatical errors, but nonetheless in perfectly coherent Hebrew. Fatso's "Kazakh" lines weren't Hebrew though, they might've been gibberish.
A lot of his lines were also Polish. My grandma called that one.
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"They were in Hebrew."

I may be a little rusty, but I am fairly sure most of them were in English. [Wink]

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Blazing Saddles comes to mind. That was Yiddish. [Smile]
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My brother insists that his "Kazakh" lines were Czech. He just got back from Olomouc, Cz, so I'll take his word for it.
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Sasha Baron Cohen uses a mix of russian, czech, hebrew, possibly polish too someone tells me. It's a whole big mishmash of languages.
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"My brother insists that his "Kazakh" lines were Czech."

Possibly some; I'm half-Czech. But a LOT of them were in Hebrew, like the "Jew-race" scene in the beginning, and some of his fights with Pavarotti (or however his assistant was called).

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As a russian jew i recognized all the Russian and Hebrew. But there were also definitely a decent amount of slavic words that I didn't understand, mostly polish from what my mother informs me. Also there wasn't a single bit of Kazakhstani.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan Howard:
"My brother insists that his "Kazakh" lines were Czech."

Possibly some; I'm half-Czech. But a LOT of them were in Hebrew, like the "Jew-race" scene in the beginning, and some of his fights with Pavarotti (or however his assistant was called).

Right. For clarification, some of his Kazakh lines were Czech. My roommate also pointed out the Hebrew. My bad on the omission.
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The part with Pamela wasn't scripted...per se, but she knew he was going to do SOMETHING, otherwise there's no way her security would've let him through, and no way he could've kept chasing her and with his cameraman still filming.

That's what she said afterwards anyway. Sacha Baron Cohen is being blamed by the pop media for the end of her marriage to Kid Rock too.

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quote:
Originally posted by KarlEd:
quote:
Originally posted by Omega M.:
I can't imagine that the Pamela Anderson or naked hotel fight scenes were unstaged, though. Wouldn't he have gotten arrested for both of those incidents?

The Pamela scenes have to have at least had her cooperation.

The hotel, well, I had the same question. It's conceivable that they weren't done with cooperation of the hotel and other people in the scenes. I mean, it's possible that the hotel just threw them out and decided not to pursue any police involvement, but I'll admit that's a stretch. On the other hand, it sure didn't feel like the event they interrupted was staged, and I can't imagine a hotel allowing something like that. If it was all staged, it was pretty brilliantly done.

The hotel scene felt unstaged to me, and I'd agree that a hotel with a spacious faux-marble lobby (IIRC) is unlikely to have agreed to cooperate. However, what we see are just cuts. It's possible that the event was taking place in a different place, or only that part was staged.

As for the Pamela Anderson scene, I was also wondering how he would have escaped conviction. That said, Anderson looked genuinely freaked out. I wonder if she has that much acting talent?

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